Move Over, Orly Taitz: Supreme Court Ignores Another Obama Birther

"Barry speaking . . ."
The U.S. Supreme Court today rejected without comment a requested rehearing on a previously tossed-out case alleging Barack Obama is not eligible to be the U.S. president.

This one was not filed by Laguna Niguel lawyer/dentist/birther/nutbar/real-estate saleswoman Orly Taitz, but rather a man who identifies himself as a retired U.S. Air Force colonel.

Gregory Hollister filed his case as Hollister v. Soetoro (10-678) because, he claims, the respondent went by "Barry Soetoro" when he was a child living in Indonesia with his family.

Fox 4 in Kansas City has the scoop.

Hollister sought the rehearing on grounds Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan must withdraw from all constitutional claims because, as Obama appointees, they have conflicts of interest.

Besides staying mum while rejecting the rehearing request, the Supreme Court also did not demand the Obama administration file a formal government response to Hollister's latest nutty claims.

Speaking of nuts, Taitz expresses disappointment in Hollister's latest defeat on her World's Leading Obama Eligibility Challenge Web Site.

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ubluit
ubluit

Why are these people continuing to argue as if they were lawyers? The facts are: The Supreme Court continues to throw out these nuisance requests because the Supreme Court KNOWS that our President was born in Hawaii and is indeed a US citizen. If the Supreme Court could establish otherwise, they would! And do you think Donald Trump will really release the findings of his "investigators"? How long has it been? Not to mention that Hillary Clinton and John McCain had the wherewithall to investigate this when they were fighting Obama so hard for the Presidency and who in their right minds think they did not?

Jon Sercel, Major USAF Retired
Jon Sercel, Major USAF Retired

Col Hollister is no nut case, I can assure you. I have served with him and he is a consummate professional, a patriot, and very much - a law abiding citizen.

His concern over who is the Commander in Chief is legitimate, especially since we have not seen a birth certificate AND HAVE A PERSON OF QUESTIONABLE ORIGIN sitting in the white house today.

Given the secrecy and stealth by which Obama has hidden his birth origins, I think it is very understandable why citizens like Col Hollister CONTINUE TO DEMAND THE DATA. Obama continues to sit on all data as he is doing as if there is trully something to hide.

If he was truly an American born citizen he would produce data showing that and get on with the duties of being president of the country. It is a reasonable request. Without it, I would wager that many more officers may soon contest the legality of Obama orders. We are at war you know... While I KNOW Col Hollister would die for his country, which is why he is doing this, I am not so sure the current resident of the white house would do similarly. If Col Hollister, has misgivings, I think its reasonable that a lot more Americans either also do, or should be thinking about their leadership as well. Far as I can recall, if he is an US American-born citizen, he is still even as president, subject to the laws of this country Which state he must be (and therefore show he is) a natural born US citizen. Who does the current president think he is, that he doesn't have to show definitively where he was born. And IF he can't or won't show us where he was born, then he should be subject to all the legal issues he is allowing to proceed. I would bet it will be a growing issue soon.

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Dancing Rabbit
Dancing Rabbit

Hawaii official (probably written by an Obama attorney):

"Obama is a natural born American citizen."

The Constitution:

"a natural born Citizen.

The John Jay letter:

"a natural born Citizen."

Why the different wording?

trent1280
trent1280

Perhaps for the same reason you call yourself 'Dancing Rabbit'.

It is meaningless, first to last, and utterly unimportant. Next?

trent1280
trent1280

Orly Taitz says that Mr Obama was born in Kenya. She has the birth certificate to prove it. She is the world's leading birther. She has filed numerous court cases. She is the last person who might be duped by fraudsters. She is the last person who would perpetrate a fraud.

Who are you to doubt the word and evidence of Orly Taitz, Esq? Are you saying she is a liar and a cheat? Are you a traitor? Do not betray your Queen!

Dancing Rabbit
Dancing Rabbit

Let us take a moment to discuss the document aka birth certificate placed on line by the Obama campaign.

This is our only source where it is alleged Obama was born in Hawaii.

The COLB document was sent to Hawaii officials from politifact.

Hawaii officials response:

"When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it."

"I don't know that it's possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents."

The document on the website is a fraud.

AlCum
AlCum

The document on the website has been authenticated and verified multiple times by Hawaiian officials. Hawaii is the issuing entity; therefore it is quite impossible for it to be a fraud. By definition, the certified copy of the birth certificate is in fact real.

trent1280
trent1280

Orly Taitz says that Mr Obama was born in Kenya. She has the birth certificate to prove it. She is the world's leading birther. She has filed numerous court cases. She is the last person who might be duped by fraudsters. She is the last person who would perpetrate a fraud.

Who are you to doubt the word and evidence of Orly Taitz, Esq? Are you saying she is a liar and a cheat? Are you a traitor? Do not betray your Queen!

Dancing Rabbit
Dancing Rabbit

What everyone fails to understand peregrine Obama does not qualify to be a citizen even if he was born in Hawaii.

He does not meet the subject to jurisdiction standards in the 14th Amendment. Nor does the peregrine President meet the citizenship standards found in the Supreme Court case Wong Kim Ark.

Peregrine Obama had an alien father who had no intention to remain in the United States and become a citizen. He was a transient student.

The Supreme Court told us in 1973 a President must not only be a citizen he must be a natural born Citizen.

The Supreme Court has told us a natural born citizen is born to citizen parents. The Court has never told us a NBC is born to an alien and a citizen.

Peregrine Obama as a President violates the Law of Nations, chapter 19, section 212: a natural born citizen is born to citizen parents. A country should desire this. A country cannot perpetuate itself unless its citizens are born from citizens.

The Supreme Court told us in 1974 the Law of Nations has been a part of our laws for 200 years.

AlCum
AlCum

You're wrong.

Bill t.
Bill t.

It took you two words what it took me 90 words to say. Nicely done!

Bill T.
Bill T.

Apparently you didn't read my responses to BorderingonRaving or if you did read it you didn't understand them. Have you actually read the text of the 14th amendment (I provided a direct quote above but don't believe me, look it up, that's what I did)? I can only conclude that you haven't since you're inserting meang into your interpretation that there is no basis for. zero. nil. zilch. If a parent of U. S. citizenship is and should be a requirement, how do you get naturalized? Think about what you're saying for a change rather than spouting Limduh and company's gibberish.

trent1280
trent1280

Orly Taitz says that Mr Obama was born in Kenya. She has the birth certificate to prove it. She is the world's leading birther. She has filed numerous court cases. She is the last person who might be duped by fraudsters. She is the last person who would perpetrate a fraud.

Who are you to doubt the word and evidence of Orly Taitz, Esq? Are you saying she is a liar and a cheat? Are you a traitor? Do not betray your Queen!

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trent1280
trent1280

Orly Taitz says that Mr Obama was born in Kenya. She has the birth certificate to prove it. She is the world's leading birther. She has filed numerous court cases. She is the last person who might be duped by fraudsters. She is the last person who would perpetrate a fraud.

Who is this creature 'Border Raven' to doubt the word and evidence of Orly Taitz, Esq?

Bill T.
Bill T.

I guess you're being ironic. Our friend Borderingonraving was also making an ironic rhetorical statement. reading his post there is no way he believes that Obama is a citizen.

trent1280
trent1280

Indeed. It is stunningly disrespectful for any birther to doubt the word of the Queen of the Birthers. Orly Taitz, Esq, solemnly declared that Mr Obama was born in Kenya. It is inconceivable that she would lie to us. It is unimaginable that she would traffic in forged documents.

BorderRaven borders on insurrection, with just a tincture of communism. This is shocking.

Bill T.
Bill T.

Gotcha, apparently dissent to the point of insurrection is OK but people driven to desperate measures to try to provide a living for heir families are criminals that need to be locked up, or preferrably shot on the whim of any TRUE PATRIOT. That's logic.

borderraven
borderraven

If Barack H Obama II was born in the USA to a US citizen mother and a US citizen father, then he would be a US Natural Born Citizen, therefore his citizenship would not be affected by the British Nationality Act of 1948 or the 1963 Kenyan Constitution.

Barack H Obama II was born in the USA to a US citizen mother and a British citizen so at birth he was a Native Born US/British Dual Citizen, his citizenship was affected by the British Nationality Act of 1948 and later by the 1963 Kenyan Constitution, therefore he is a US Citizen, but not a US Natural Born Citizen.

borderraven
borderraven

So, Barack H Obama II, was born on August 4, 1961. He was born in the US, subject to the 14th Amendment, and is a US Citizen, eligible to serve as an Article I US Senator.The UK recognized jus sangunis dual-nationality in 1961, and the US recognized Jus soli.Barack H Obama II, was born after the British Nationality Act 1948, but before the British Nationality Acts 1981 and 1983, and he was born a first-generation jus sanguinis UK citizen.Since Barack H Obama II, was born a first-generation UK citizen, not a naturalized UKC, living in the US, he remained a British citizen in the eyes of the British government, until Kenya Independence on December 12, 1963. “Various countries do base their nationality laws first and foremost on jus sanguinis. The UK departed from the common law tradition when it brought the British Nationality Act 1981 into force and required that at least one parent have permanent residence in the UK for a child born in the UK to be a British citizen at birth.”In 1961, Barack Obama Sr, was in the US on a non-immigrant student visa, and he had a home (permanent residence) in Kenya British Protectorate which "he had no intention of abandoning." Barack H Obama II, is not a US natural-born Citizen.

Ac322
Ac322

Sorry, borderraven, but the status of his parents is of no relevance to his natural born US citizenship.

Again, we do not let other countries' laws determine who OUR citizens are.

Bill T.
Bill T.

Why are you citing U.K. law? Obama was born on U.S. soil. This makes him a U. S. citizen under U. S. law. People are throwng in the clause stating that if a person is born outside of th U. S. of at least one U. S. citizen then that person is a U. S, citizen. This is exactly what it means, that if one of your parents is a citizen thjen it doesn't matter where you're born, you're also a citizen. It explicitly doesn not mean that you must have at least one parent that is a citizen. Think about the intent. If this were not the case then children of U. S. soldiers (for an example) born in Germany would not be U. S. citizens.

Jon Sercel
Jon Sercel

Children born of US parents abroad are not 'natural' US citizens. Even if they are born on military bases abroad. They all must obtain a certificate of naturalization. and by law cannot be president. I know - I am one of them. I was born on a US military base in Germany and had dual US and German citizenship until the age of majority - when I had to declare my 'allegiance'. Sorry bit that s the facts. If Obama has one or two parents of US origin but he is born outside of the US territory then he can't be president.

Thats probably why he is hiding his pedigree.

Biden4President
Biden4President

It is very unlikely that Owesama Owebama was born on U.S. soil, which is irrelevant. See the comment by borderraven. It is legally, and morally, correct. Owesama Owebama is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States of America, and is NOT eligible to be President. Therefore he will remain "president", until the situation is cured, in 2012.

The intent of the 14th amendment was to prevent the former confederate states from preventing freed slaves from exercising the rights of citizenship, by claiming that they were here illegally.

Everything after that is a perversion, and distortion, of the original intent.

AlCum
AlCum

It is proven beyond doubt that Obama was born on US soil, unlike John McCain who was not born in the United States. You are borderraving are both blatantly incorrect. The parents' citizenship status is of no consequence unless they were foreign diplomats here on assignment. Case is closed on this one: Obama=NBC; McCain=would require court ruling.

Bill t.
Bill t.

What part of U. K. law doesn't apply do you not get? It's rally stretching to cite a another nation's law to try to make your case about U. S. law. The 14th amnendment is the controlling law and is simple and clear. There is no mention of parentage, if you're born in the U. S. you're a citizen. Have you read the constitutional amendments? Every time I hear these arguments I go back and reread the rekleant section to see if there is any basis to the arguments, sometimes there is ambiguity (the right to bear arms) but not in this case.

Bill T.
Bill T.

Actually, I was confused when I wrote this. I was thinking that the law that grants citizenship to children born outside of of the U. S. to U. S. citizens are citizens was part of the 14th amendment. Actually all the 14th amendment says is that if you're born in the U. S. that you are a U. S. citizen: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside". I HAVE read it before, but misremembered as indicated.

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