[UPDATE: OC Democrats Blast Pauly] Video Captures Protesters, Politicians Berating Muslims at Yorba Linda Charity Function


UPDATE, MARCH 21, 9:18 P.M.: Two Villa Park residents will lead a "silent march" at 4 p.m. Tuesday to the town's City Council meeting "to demand action against the hate sanctioned by our Orange County elected officials."

Deborah Pauly, a Villa Park councilwoman and Orange County Republican Central Committee vice chairwoman, sparked outrage by wishing death on Orange Countians entering a February Muslim charity event in Yorba Linda. She labeled the men, women and children "terrorists" and "enemies of America."

"We were disturbed to learn of your anti-American comments, captured by video on Feb. 13, 2011, in Yorba Linda, California, which now has all of us feeling unsafe, as we are concerned for the safety of our family members and our children who frequent the local schools," Villa Park residents Nadia Hassan and Shais Khan write in a letter to Pauly and copied to the councilwoman's colleagues. "Your hateful remarks have drawn nationwide criticism and have brought condemnation from both Republicans and Democrats alike."

The pair's flier for the march is titled, "SAY 'NO' TO HATE" and features an illustration with a map of central Orange County, the word "Islamaphobia" with a red slash through it, and photos of Pauly and Representatives Ed Royce (R-Fullerton) and Gary Miller (R-Diamond Bar) speaking. The congressmen also participated in the protest against the charity event.

The letter to Pauly follows:

March 14, 2011

Deborah Pauly
Council Member
City of Villa Park
17855 Santiago Blvd.
Villa Park, CA 92861

RE: Yorba Linda Protest of February 13, 2011

Dear Ms. Pauly:

Although we have never personally met, we hoped to be writing under more favorable terms.  We, the undersigned constituents, have been long time residents of Villa Park, most of us for more than 30 years.  Amongst this group are patriotic children of a United States Marine, who faithfully served this country in the Korean War with great honor.  Villa Park is a place that we have always been proud to call home. 

We were disturbed to learn of your anti-American comments, captured by video on Feb 13, 2011 in Yorba Linda, CA, which now has all of us feeling unsafe as we are concerned for the safety of our family members and our children who frequent the local schools.  Your hateful remarks have drawn nationwide criticism and have brought condemnation from both Republicans and Democrats alike.  Villa Park has always been regarded as "the hidden jewel" of Orange County but now the media is quick to label the city of Villa Park as "the hidden hatred" as a result of your statements.  In our town, we do not want to hear our elected officials making blatant calls for violence against fellow Americans irrespective of party affiliation, political views or religious beliefs.

Your speech incited hate and undermined the very essence of American values in which we pride ourselves.  In Villa Park, we have always supported religious pluralism as we have always enjoyed a peaceful co-existence amongst our constituents.  On Feb 13, you stated that, "I know quite a few Marines who would be very happy to help these terrorists to an early meeting in paradise."  Ms. Pauly is your statement a threat or is it a fact, and as Americans, should we be concerned for the lives of our fellow Americans?  And were the US Marines aware of this?  You have done a disservice to your colleagues and you have disgraced not only the respectable office of a Villa Park Councilmember, but you have also disgraced our city, our country, and our United States Marines.  In this great land, there is no longer any room for hate and bigotry. 

We want to know whether your actions of Feb 13 reflect the position of the Villa Park City Council, and if not, we would like to call on you to publicly retract your hateful, un-American statements and restore integrity to the office of Villa Park's City Council.  As an elected official, it is your job to promote healthy dialogue amongst the masses in the face of disparity.  We understand that protestors have every right to voice their concerns by way of "freedom of speech", however; freedom of speech does not embody the humiliation of innocent civilians, yelling at and heckling children, or the degradation of a world religion and the faith of millions of law abiding citizens.  As an elected official, you should know better than to condemn a vast world religion such as Islam, or any other religion for that matter, based on the actions of a few misguided people.

We are calling on you to reconsider and rethink your statements of February 13.  If you are willing to take responsibility for your actions and create dialogue with your fellow Villa Parkian constituents, then we are ready to take a leap of good faith and listen to what you have to say.  We understand that, sometimes, people make mistakes and we are fully ready to forgive you and support you to remain in office as our Villa Park City Councilmember if you agree to rectify the situation as follows:

Publicly retract your statements,
Make a public apology, and
Get to know the American Muslim constituents of Villa Park.

We kindly would like to request a response to this letter no later than March 18, 2011 by 5pm.   We look forward to a speedy response from you.

Sincerely,

Villa Park Constituents
Nadia Hassan, Villa Park, CA
Shais Khan, Villa Park, CA

cc: Mayor W. Bill Mac Aloney
    Mayor Pro Tem W. Richard Ulmer
    Councilmember Brad Reese
    Council Member James Rheins
The Villa Park City Council meets at 17855 Santiago Blvd., Villa Park.

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UPDATE, MARCH 15, 3:49 P.M.: During the public comments that are taken near the beginning of tonight's 6:30 p.m. Yorba Linda City Council meeting, concerned locals will address the anti-Muslim rallies outside the city Community Center on Feb. 13.

Video from the protests posted on YouTube have led to international condemnation of the spectacle and politicians who cheered on ralliers. In particular, calls are being made to reign in a top Orange County Republican Party official, Deborah Pauly.

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Deborah Pauly, OC GOP's official hater?
"The longtime leaders of Orange County's Republican Party were given a rude awakening in January when Villa Park Councilwoman and self-described "blended" Tea Partier Deborah Pauly bested establishment candidate Jon Fleischman in the election for first vice chairperson of the GOP Central Committee," reports Voice of OC.*

(*Attribution corrected; hat tip to Islamophobia Watch.)

"Just how rude this awakening could end up being for the party's establishment became apparent in mid-February when Pauly stood outside of a Muslim charity event in Yorba Linda and said to cheering protestors: 'Make no mistake, my friends, these who are assembling are enemies of America.' She added: 'I know quite a few Marines who would be very happy to help these terrorists to an early meeting in paradise.'"

Pauly's vitriol was credited with helping spur death threats reported to the Orange County Human Relations Commission and possible censure from her council colleagues. The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) chose to appeal to Pauly's party.

"Time and again, Republican leaders have shown a lack of leadership and irresponsible behavior in upholding the oath that they took," Munira Syeda, the CAIR-LA spokeswoman, told the Voice of OC. "It's time for the Republican party to come out and say this is un-American."

*  *  *

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Rep. Peter King, light on context
It's a hot mic inside the Yorba Linda council chambers, so comments from those as hate-filled as Pauly's may also be aired. If so, expect the usual canard about CAIR or the speaker at the Muslim charity event having ties to terrorists because the government has previously labeled them "unindicted co-conspirators."

Imam Siraj Wahaj got that rap (repeated in posts below) from federal prosecutors in the first World Trade Center bombing, while CAIR earned the dubious distinction from a Hamas-funding case involving the Holy Land Foundation. Neither was ever charged with a crime.

Now we have Congressman Peter King (R-New York) to thank for helping to put
unindicted co-conspirator in context. It was bandied about in reference to CAIR so often during the recent House Homeland Security Hearings on Islamic Radicalization led by King that Washington Post Fact Checker Glenn Kessler decided to define it.

These claims lack context. CAIR is an aggressive Muslim civil-liberties organization, modeled on the Anti Defamation League, that has made it a target for criticism. It was indeed named as an "unindicted co-conspirator or joint venturer" in the Holy Land Foundation case--an Islamic charity that in 2008 was convicted of funding Islamic militant groups. But CAIR was not alone in that designation; nearly 250 other organizations and individuals were also named.

The federal government said the organizations were included on the list in order to produce evidence at the trial, but the district court and a federal appeals court later ruled that it had been a mistake to make the list public.

As the appeals court summed up last year, "The court held that the government did not argue or establish any legitimate government interest that warranted publicly identifying [one of the organizations] and 245 other individuals and entities as unindicted co-conspirators or joint venturers and that the government had less injurious means than those employed, such as anonymously designating the unindicted co-conspirators as 'other persons,' asking the court to file the document under seal, or disclosing the information to the defendants pursuant to a protective order."

However, federal Judge Jorge A. Solis denied CAIR's request that its name be publicly striken from the list. He said the government "has produced ample evidence" to establish the association of CAIR and other organizations with entities such as the Holy Land Foundation, the Islamic Association for Palestine and with the Hamas militant group. Solis acknowledged CAIR's claim that evidence produced by the government "largely predates" the official designation of these groups as terror organizations, but he said the "evidence is nonetheless sufficient to show the association of these entities with HLF, IAP and Hamas."

The appeals court, in a ruling involving another Muslim organization on the list, criticized Solis for this statement, saying it "went beyond what was relevant to any hypothetical evidentiary issue and may have obfuscated the underlying Fifth Amendment issue."

. . . 

The repeated references to CAIR being an "unindicted co-conspirator" is one of those true facts that ultimately gives a false impression.


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Hussam Ayloush
UPDATE, MARCH 9, 9:22 A.M.: What a difference a day makes.

Video of an anti-Muslim rally in Yorba Linda last month that was pulled down from YouTube Tuesday has been reposted online.

Meanwhile, Hussam Ayloush, executive director of the nonprofit Council on American-Islamic Relations' (CAIR) Greater Los Angeles office in Anaheim that produced the video, responds exclusively to the Weekly this morning to Rabbi David Eliezrie's allegations that CAIR-LA "lied" and "doctored" the footage. Ayloush accuses the leader of the North County Chabad Center of being the one who is lying, draws a "sad parallel" between the protesters' "demonizing and dehumanizing rhetoric and that of 1930s Nazi Germany that later led to the horrors of the Holocaust" and ends by offering "reconciliation."

YouTube removed the video yesterday amid "copyright infringement" allegations by Santa Ana gadfly and mayoral candidate George Collins, who shot some of the footage for his Santa Ana TV website.

Today, one can view the CAIR-LA video via Vimeo:


Hate Comes to Orange County from cairsocal on Vimeo.

The following note appears below the video:

Note: Please do no leave hateful comments. The bigotry shown in this video only represents the persons engaging in it. This is not a reflection on Christians, Jews, or fellow Americans. We can't fight bigotry and ignorance with the same. We can't stoop to the same level of hatemongers. We have to increase our efforts to promote dialogue and mutual respect.

Speaking of messages, Ayloush shared the following with the Weekly in response to Eliezrie's claim that the Muslim advocacy nonprofit "lied" by having "spliced together video from two separate events." The North County Chabad Center rabbi, who attended and helped organize the rally, draws a distinction between demonstrators he was with 100 yards away from the Yorba Linda Community Center and those near the facility's entrance.

Ayloush's full statement:

Instead of rewriting the history of the anti-Muslim protest on Feb. 13 in Yorba Linda, Rabbi David Eliezrie should have the integrity to take responsibility for participating in and enabling this shameful and hateful incident against peaceful families, including many children. He needs to clearly condemn the hate-filled rhetoric at every stage in the rally and apologize to the Muslim American community and all Orange County residents for the pain and embarrassment that he caused by his irresponsible behavior, which is un-befitting a faith leader.

At the rally, which Rabbi Eliezrie says he attended and labeled as a "peaceful protest," speakers made a barrage of anti-Muslim comments. Karen Lugo, a Chapman Law School professor, advocated discriminating against Muslims, saying, "When we have a group that is asking for special preferences and special treatment, it is not a matter of discrimination to say no when a group is less than 1 percent of our population."  Villa Park Councilwoman Deborah Pauly spoke at the same "peaceful protest" and said, "I know quite a few Marines who will be happy to help these terrorists [Pauly pointed toward the community center where the fund-raising event was held] to an early meeting in paradise." She added, "These who are assembling are enemies of America. They are your enemy. They are my enemy because they seek to destroy it." The full video of the speeches is available to watch on the Internet. A Jewish Journal article on the anti-Muslim protest states that Rabbi Eliezrie was one of the speakers at that rally. (The article, which is sympathetic to the protesters, contradicts the lie that there were two separate protests.)

Once the hate speeches and provocation by the rally speakers ended and Muslim attendees started arriving to the fund-raising dinner, a group of protesters formed a mob, yelling insults and threats against Muslims, as seen in videos and news reports. Comments included slurs such as: "Muhammad was a pervert," "Muhammad was a fraud," "Go home and beat your wife," and "Go home, terrorist." Witnesses and videos from the rally show some protesters even blowing shofars, declaring a battle against Muslims.

Does Rabbi Eliezrie, especially as a Jewish leader, not see the sad parallel between this demonizing and dehumanizing rhetoric and that of 1930s Nazi Germany, which later led to the horrors of the Holocaust?

Instead of insulting the intelligence of Americans and blaming CAIR's video for exposing the hate fest, Rabbi Eliezrie and other protest organizers and public officials who participated in and spoke at the rally and incited protesters should condemn the hate that resulted. It would be better to begin a process of reconciliation by becoming agents of unity, peace and tolerance, rather than engaging in McCarthyesque tactics to demonize and marginalize American Muslims under the pretext of protesting controversial speakers (which would have been and is acceptable). American Muslims are willing to forgive and have their arms genuinely open to all fellow Americans, including Rabbi Eliezrie, for such a partnership against all forms of violence, bigotry and bias.
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Aeafe
Aeafe

Looks and sounds like a Klan rally, hate hiding behind a flag and a bible. I heart OC! www.google.com handbag

Muhammed
Muhammed

FREE PANCAKE BREAKFAST, SATURDAY, APRIL 2ND, 2011..Reportedly Congressman Ed Royce is holding a fund raising gathering at his home in Fullerton to elaborate on his position that he took in Yorba Linda on February 13th regarding "Muslim's here in the U.S." Sources tell me that Mr. Royce is catering to his supporters (for money of course!) and this is touted as a "political fundraiser" and will be speaking about his condoning the support of Muslims in this country. Anyone can attend and it is a FREE Pancake Breakfast, supposedly open to his consituents of the City of Orange. (How are they going to know what city you come from?) This FREE Pancake Breakfast is scheduled to be held at Mr. Royce's home in Fullerton on Saturday, April 2nd, 2011. Address is 1513 No. Highland Ave, Fullerton , Ca. 92835 Simply knock and enter thru the front door. The gathering will be on the back patio. Reports say that Villa Park Councilwoman Debrah Pauly will be in attendance so expect a "spirited event" if it really happens. Royce supported Pauly at the rally in Yorba Linda where over 500 protesters showed up.It will be interesting to see if this event takes place without a hitch. I have a feeling that as more people hear about this gathering, that it could draw more people than the scene at Yorba Linda. Can't wait.

Michelle Quinn
Michelle Quinn

blah blah, as she expresses her outrage about miss pauly, I wonder what she think's about the fact that she is lucky her muslim female A$$ is here and not in a muslim country.... What a pathetic excuse for intelligence.

I am sorry, I am more offended when a mulsim woman stands up and asks for civilty and respect, when her very religon she wears with such flare, see's her as nothing but a big piece of meat!

Wise up!

junior
junior

Not much doubt that mr. "GOGO" is Sean Mill. He is known for his viscious and baseless personal attacks.

GOGO
GOGO

Man, Whoever this RACIST PIG "Junior" is, the FBI should be checking this guy out.

Juniors comments are dangerous. This guy whoever he is or claims to be is a racist maniac. I look forward to seeing him on a future episode of criminal minds.

Tim McVey all over again.

Clarance of Arabia
Clarance of Arabia

oH no.. Another ethnic group/race .. whatever.. gets their immigration ticket punched and think they actually have something to do with America. A white women givers her opinion.. so what? Hate, racist, xenophobe..all the stupid names you jew/muslms/mexis..scream when you think you're a victim. Go back to your mudhuts .

909Jeff
909Jeff

First They came... - Pastor Martin Niemoller

First they came for the communists,and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me.

We ask the tough questions not because we are racist but because history demands it!

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Hurray for Deborah Pauly. She said what needs to be said and is 100% correct in herassessment of the radical muslims intent on destroying our Country from within.Stand up America! The time is now and we must band together to stop theseradicals before it's too late.

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GOGO

Deb Pauly fails to mention that her son is GAY!

What a hypocrite!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

I challenge any of you to view the Youtube video posted above and answer two questions.

Does the violent, hateful racist rhetoric of Malik-Ali deserve a response? And if so – what type of response would you feel is appropriate?.

Black Dog
Black Dog

Wow, it's nice to see the Muslim community standing together to protest bigotry toward Islam. It would have been great though to see them as supportive for other wrongs though, like 9/11. The day I saw the Islamic world dancing in the streets celebrating the terrorists attacks on 9/11, that kinda formed my opinion of the people and their religion. Maybe only .0001% or less of Muslims are extremists, but as far as I can tell, that .0001% is supported by 99% of the population and all of their governments. I have yet to be proven wrong...

Amillennialist
Amillennialist

Why is this post's author defending Islam? For it is Muhammad and his allah who require:

"the Messenger of Allah . . . would say: 'Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war. . . . When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. . . . Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. . . . If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them . . .'" (Muslim Book 19, Number 4294).

"fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war) . . . " (Qur’an 9:5).

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (Qur'an 9:29).

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter . . . " (Qur'an 5:33).Ibn Kathir says of this verse: "'Wage war' mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways. Mischief in the land refers to various types of evil." So, Muhammad requires execution, crucifixion, or cutting off hands and feet from opposite sides for "disbelief.""Allah's Apostle said: 'I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle [. . .] if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me . . . '" (Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24).

"It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise" (Qur'an 8:67).

"Allah’s Apostle said, '. . . I have been made victorious with terror . . .'" (Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220).

Jacledude
Jacledude

Yorba Linda was a protests against the speakers and those who go to hear them, one an avowed and outspoken homophobe and anti-Semite and the other a complete racist who labels all whites "white devils." Just the facts. Whether you pay $25 to hear them or hear them for free, that gathering was NOT the innocent fund-raiser for "beggar-women" it said it was. More went to pay the speakers than they raised.

junior
junior

Of Malik-Ali, the radical Islamist speaker at the fundraising event, Vern Nelson of the Orange Juice blog said:".. Why he’d be chosen as a speaker for a charity event by ICNA I have no idea, but I plan to ask them .."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

norris
norris

pauly, royce and all those who refuse to see the hate in this protest are racists. the only reason these white politicians attended this demonstration is they hate the muslims who attended this event because muslims are not white.

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junior
junior

GOGO,

Exactly what comment or comments make me a racist pig?

Clarence of Arabia
Clarence of Arabia

All you have to say is 'jews'. They are the communists and trade unionists. Thanks for the laugh at your attempt to make communists out as victims. They've killed more people on this planet than any other groups combined. ... including ..drum roll please.. The nazis.

909Jeff
909Jeff

I'm not sure if this is true but if it is you make our case because under Sharia law homosexuals are murdered.

DirtyGARYSUCKS
DirtyGARYSUCKS

Quit posting this silly PROPAGANDA peice Junior.

If the fool at SATV hadn't wanted the real thing released then this would have never been an issue.

But, I'll take the bait:

Yes it does, but BASHING innocent people like Garry Miller, Debra Pauly and Ed Royce did, all elected officials, is not fair game.

Maybe this is why you sell sheet metal and are not mayor.

Quit posting this bullshit response, you are only fanning the flames dumbshit. The assholes that gathered that night are just that assholes. Led by GOP electeds that feel they need to play to racist assholes to get elected. Would'nt you rather see then do something for the community (like pass a law) instead.

ROYCE - PAULY-MILLER THREE RACIST BIGOTS: There no denying that Junoir

Amillennialist
Amillennialist

"Allah’s Apostle said, '. . . I have been made victorious with terror . . .'" (Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220).

GUEST
GUEST

MANY Muslim groups came together to denounce what happened in 2001. Innocent Muslims - not the terrorists - were killed on that day as well. Where is all the Christian outrage when Westboro Baptist Church protests outside the funerals of American soldiers, saying that God has killed that soldier because God hates America? Why aren't you speaking up in protest against them?

White Women Are Satan
White Women Are Satan

She resembles every stupid dumb fake titty white bitch, the kind that spew racism on YouTube and get called out on it, but 20-30 years older.

This is what they turn into.

junior
junior

norris,

You could not be more wrong.

Santiago Matamoros
Santiago Matamoros

It's true that Communism's killed more than Nazism, but in comparison to Islam neither have been more than a drop in the bucket.

What should you expect from nearly one and one-half millennia of "kill the pagans wherever you find them" (Qur'an 9:5)?

909Jeff
909Jeff

Yeah Clarence that’s what I was doing... Sympathizing with the pinko's. Or, just maybe what I was doing was pointing out that if you keep your mouth shut and look the other way because you are afraid that someone might call you names like... Racist, because you refuse to look the other way when you have people like Imam Choudery demand that the United States recognize and implement Sharia Law...And guess what Clarence? All you hear coming from CAIR and the so called "Moderate" or "Main-Stream" Muslims is crickets chirping... So before these people "Progress" us back to the stone age you better bet your Arabian ass People like me are going to be here demanding accountability on all sides, and are definitely not going to let CAIR talk out of both sides of their mouths. Talking about how all these terrible racists here in the OC bullied innocent Muslims and their children while in the same breath crying about how the Irvine 11 are having their freedom of speech trampled on when they did the same thing as the ignorant Honky's in Yorba Linda!

And Damnit Gustavo Where have you been? I miss my favorite whipping boy!

909Jeff
909Jeff

So the Irvine 11... who shouted racist things at the Isreali ambassador were what? Oh thats right 11 racist bigots!

People in glass houses... nevermind!

junior
junior

Dirty,

What is this BS about me running for mayor? I have never run for any political office.

In regard to the violence, hatered and racism of one of the radical speakers at the fundraiser you said "Yes it does" call for a response and that is fair game for anyone even electeds - especially electeds.

That BS mayor thing really bugs me ... where did that come from?

Amillennialist
Amillennialist

How dishonest of you.

It is ridiculous to imply that Islam doesn't kill because Westboro offends.

Even though this has nothing to do with either jihad or shari'a, what Christian denominations support Westboro? Which churches share their beliefs as official doctrine? To what command of Christ can Westboro point to justify their despicable behavior? As hateful as they are, they're not beheading and raping non-Christians to shouts of "Jesus is great!"

On the other hand, Muslims have been killing other Muslims almost as long as they've been killing non-Muslims. So what if innocent Muslims died on 9/11? It's their coreligionists who pulled the trigger, and they did so in obedience to Allah and in emulation of Muhammad. And that is the critical issue here.

When a non-Muslim does something hateful, it is *in spite of* his religion. When Muslims butcher, rape, and maim in order to advance the implementation of shari'a, it is *in obedience to* Allah and *in emulation of* Muhammad.

So, why are you obfuscating for jihad?

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Richard Seph
Richard Seph

Tardiff,

Last time I checked, Jesus Christ did not have and exclusive on the God thing. Nor do Royce, Pauly and Miller have an exclusive on being fake vote getters. The truth is they were pandering to the nut balls.

The "protest" was reprehensible. But thankfully the reasonable have you on their side, by keeping this thing front and center, you keep remindng us what chicken hawks the OC GOP is.

junior
junior

wtf are you talking about?

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