About That Soka University Cover: A Note From the Editor

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This week's cover story about Soka University in Aliso Viejo has generated a firestorm of reader comments. The piece discusses the university's first 10 years of existence, as well as the controversial history of the Japan-based, lay Buddhist organization that founded it, Soka Gakkai International (SGI).

Because the story deals with complaints by professors at the university that the spiritual teachings of SGI create a difficult working atmosphere for non-SGI members, we certainly expected a strong negative response from many students, faculty and staff. And we got that in the story's online comments, even though (or, perhaps, because) staff writer Michelle Woo's piece was well-written and well-reported.

What we hadn't expected was getting accused of being racists for the image we used on the cover--but we've gotten plenty of that, too.

I could sit here and try to explain what we were getting at, metaphorically, with the cartoony illustration of the looming Buddha-like figure and the smaller people in his hands, but you know what they say about having to explain a joke. And I don't think anyone is upset about the cover because they didn't "get" it.

A few of the commenters have gotten nasty--"Proud Asian" calling Michelle "white-washed" is a particularly egregious example--but I'm not just going to write this off as the rantings of anonymous commenters, either. In the past couple of days, I've talked to several intelligent people of good conscience who didn't see the image as ethnically insensitive. I've talked to just as many intelligent people of good conscience--and with no ties to SGI or Soka U--who told me the image was goofy, fucked-up or both.

I'm writing this note to let you know that if you think the illustration crosses the line from irreverent-and-ironic (c.f. various and sundry messed-up riffs on the image of Jesus we've run over the years, to say nothing of the ¡Ask a Mexican! logo we run every week) into a flat-out racist caricature of an Asian person, then you should direct all of your ire against the person who's really responsible for it: me.

As the editor of this paper, I wouldn't have let it go out the door if I'd thought it crossed the line into offensive. Around here, we like to offend people on purpose, not by accident--and always in the service of some larger satirical goal. When commenter "drewrx" wrote, "great article, horrible cover art," well, that one stung. The cover should offer a powerful visual statement that both distills and amplifies the essence of the story--not become a distraction from it.

If you think the cover showed crap judgment, then the crap judgment in question was mine, and no one else's.

Please let me know your thoughts directly at tkissell@ocweekly.com or in the comments on this post.

Thanks.

 -- Ted

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worried parent
worried parent

I applaud you for this cover story and for Michelle Woo's good reporting. Especially (as she wrote) in the light of the fear and intimidation the wealthy and powerful SGI creates with its "armies of lawyers" and other tactics.

For the fearless, there is a much bigger story about SGI's manipulation of its earnest lay members to empower and enrich its leaders. An additional challenge is SGI's extremely skillful control of digital and print information. You have to work hard to find websites or publications that are not created or funded directly/indirectly by SGI. I have been trying to find information to find a way to help break the hold it has on my family. They have already convinced my elementary school daughter to attend Soka U! If you take on the challenge, be careful.

SGI has probably (quietly) surpassed Unification Church and Scientology in terms power and impact on peoples lives. It has much better PR like the innumerable purchased honorary degrees for Mr. Ikeda. The general public if they know anything, probably see SGI as an eccentric new religion with people chanting for material wealth -- not anything harmful.

I am Asian, and was not offended by the cover. It is a good parody of SGI's own distortion of Buddhism as a tool for its leaders to gain power and riches.

Guest
Guest

As a white man who dressed in black face for Halloween, I shouldn't have to explain my reasoning for doing so; you should be able to read my mind and interpret my intent. I'm socially insulting when it suits my purpose, but that wasn't the case here. My smart friends told me my costume was hilarious. I accept that.

That concludes my apology (except I didn't make one).

DanD
DanD

As a soka gakkai member, I do find it (the cover) funny not because of sarcasm but because of its innocent ignorance. A bald monk in contemplation for one thing - we don't follow or worship monks nor priests as it is a lay organization. We don't practice 'meditation' as we actually chant (a practice that's as old as meditation or older). The statue images of the Buddha (if this is what it's supposed to represent) universally (throughout Asia) has him with short, curly hair..in southeast Asia, In China, images of the fat Buddha represent happiness (if you're fat, you must be prosperous, then you're eating well, therefore you must be happy) and often the image of Hotei (the fat buddha at chinese restaurants you see, where you rub his belly) is originally a Taoist sage or monk who walks the countryside with a sack cloth (Hotei) bearing candy for children.. Throughout southeast Asian, Buddha is depicted as a lean, mean, Buddha machine. Don't get me started on the ears as they represent his 'royalty' (Hindu) or a reminder that he is of a higher caste (for which the Buddha actually taught that everyone posseses Buddha nature or their true self, full potential that he himself attained in many lifetimes before his present lifetime) . Really to me it's basically non-threatening anyway when it all comes down to it as nobody in the present day really knows what the Buddha looked like as there were no Buddha statues until maybe about 300 yrs later when the Greek-Bactrian culture (northern Pakistan/Gandhara, now known as Kandahar) and combined with Hindu reverence also for images came together. So ennyhoo, whether or not it engenders discrimination or anything, even if it's offensive to some, it all depends on the life state of the individual looking... and you don't want me to get started on that too...(lol)

guest
guest

I was curious to see the type of articles written in the publications, given that I grew up in Orange County. I'm actually writing a paper about how the media's representation of it's subject can perpetuate stereotypes and how the production of such articles also create an image of the readership. Don't let these articles fool you into thinking that all Orange County people like reading contentless articles! Also, let's give them the benefit of the doubt that they are developing writers. You can't expect Michelle to be able to jump from writing about fashion and Poki bowls, to actually doing a legitimate journalistic investigation on a school. (Yes, I've also browsed through some of her articles... painful.) I'm thinking of looking into the type of content written in the OC register as well. Anyways, I'm not affiliated with the school or that buddhist group, but was intrigued to see what all the fuss is about. I'm just tired of having this be the representation of OC. There are smart and compassionate people here too who care about the world! Now to my paper....

mc
mc

You could have at least explained what the cover was supposed to mean, instead of copping out like that. Now it just looks like you have no idea. I am instantly reminded of the Seinfeld episode entitled, "The Cartoon." I'm sure you've seen it. I won't bother to explain it.

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Heather
Heather

"As the editor of this paper, I wouldn't have let it go out the door if I'd thought it crossed the line into offensive. Around here, we like to offend people on purpose, not by accident--and always in the service of some larger satirical goal."

Please explain how it is possible that your aim is to purposefully offend people, yet you would not have let an article that you believed to be offensive out the door.

I honestly believe that people, particularly those affiliated with Soka (and by that I mean the university), would listen and take to heart a critical article of the university if the "facts" were actually correct. It isn't necessary to single out a group of people to offend, especially when this university is so welcoming and generous to the surrounding community.

If the article was meant to be a joke, well, it wasn't very funny. I can appreciate your cover choice for its silliness if I stretch my judgment a little bit, but the article was a serious one (or it at least addressed serious issues), and in my opinion, that particular image was uncalled for.

Moreover, I do not think that it was just the cover of the article that showed "crap judgement." As an editor, you have the responsibility to do better than this. To say, after the fact, that it was okay to publish false information on the grounds that you thought it might be funny or contribute to some mysterious greater cause is simply not acceptable.We already have The Onion for our doses of funny, false, and satirical information. I know you are the OCWeekly, but please don't confuse onions and oranges. Just because it is Orange County doesn't mean that everything has to be fake. There are plenty of people out there who actually want to know the truth.

Aileen Holmes
Aileen Holmes

I know my parents will be offended by the cover! They have been Soka Gakkai members for 30+ years and are offended by any imagery of other Buddhist sects. Gakkai have tons of photos of Ikeda, not Buddha and consider pictures of Buddha idolatry (however, photos of Ikeda isn't?). I am not sure if the insult was intentional or ignorant but it really got me thinking about growing up Gakkai. It was a powerful image to me, and I appreciate the critical discourse that has followed. Thanks!

guest
guest

ok, really? This cover is just as racist as black face (actually if the make the lips white and paint him black it IS blackface). Why don't we add a sleeping Mexican in a sombrero or a drunk Irishman on the cover while we're at it because they're so funny.

Don'tJudgeABookByItsCover
Don'tJudgeABookByItsCover

Please comment only about the cover because that is what the editor only cares about. (this is a joke, get it? but it seems to be that way)

I personally admire and respect those who have put a lot of time and thought into their comments. Because I didn't want to have gustavoarellano write a pointless comment under mine, I wrote a 1 page email to the editor about the article and the cover. I just don't like seeing gustavoarellano's responses popping up on other ppl's comments. His commenting is equivalent to a fight between 5 year old kids repeatedly saying to each other "I know you are, but what am I?". It can get annoying and nothing gets resolved.

Anyways, I hope the editor will read my email and write back.

Eddie Doug
Eddie Doug

*Sigh* There's no point to this fight at all people please. The cover is not the issue. The issue with the cover is the fact that the SGI does not worship monks nor use this heretical Buddha symbol which is of Chinese origin and not Japanese like Nichiren or the SGI. The SGI believes in Siddhartha Gautama who was Indian as someone pointed out earlier, and Nichiren based his writings on the Lotus Sutra which is a discourse that Siddhartha recited at the end of his life (not exactly his writings, but his teachings, much like the way that the bible is formatted if you need for me to make a connection or something). Now as a non Asian I can see why the cover is offensive yes, and I can see why you would personally find it funny or clever, or witty. Hell I’ll admit I saw a satirical picture of Jesus and “thought that’s pretty funny. Somewhere out there someone will bitch about it, but it’s funny” I personally believe that in order to be tolerant of others you must learn to laugh at your own beliefs and I am willing to do that here. (Not sure if others are, but hey that’s your problem buddy). However my big issue is not the cover. It is the fact that you have however blown off and scapegoat the issue at hand which is completely unprofessional and only causing more controversy. In the words of professional wrestling booker, and former owner of WCW Eric Bishoff “Controversy Creates Cash” which is 100% true and you have definitely garnered a lot of attention from SUA with your article in recent days I’ve noticed (and hell I’m in Barcelona. My facebook has been running wild with posts) which is good for you. However maybe you should address your controversies before starting new ones eh?

At first the article uses the SGI as justification for why Gaye was terminated from her teaching responsibilities in the first place. At SUA we have a system where students are able to give feed back on our professors and choose whether or not their teaching style was beneficial to the way that the class was taught. When taking a class with the professor in question, I personally gave her bad marks (just being honest). While I am disheartened to hear that she has been terminated, it is not to say that she was terminated without cause. The woman has caused problems with our students in the past. In fact I just spoke to a student (A non SGI member and in fact very indifferent to religion) who stated that she wasn't exactly the shining example of what a teacher should have been. Yet here we are ONCE AGAIN blaming the SGI for an issue that isn't about the SGI. Maybe 5 years ago when it was a younger school, and SGI was more prominent and the norm I can imagine that this could be the reason for contention, but a man like Dean Feasel would never terminate someone based on their teaching. It's not his style. Yet here we are blaming the fact that we are a “liberal” and a “Buddhist only” school

Last summer a professor was released from his contract due to physiological problems where he publicly bashed the school on his facebook and friended all of the students so he could get us to join his cause. And you know what; the sad thing is we bought into it. We didn't know all the facts, but many of us tried to "fight the administration" in order to get his job back. Is that professional? No. And in fact it was that action that got him fired. Not the hunger strike, not the refusal to take a physiological exam, no. It was the fact that he unprofessionally bashed the school over a public forum and almost caused a riot. Sad thing is I really liked the guy. An SGI student liking a non SGI teacher...weird huh? Hmm who would have thunk it. And now here he is, a semester later, blaming the SGI for his problems, which was never really a problem until this Gaye situation came into play. Man blaming the SGI for your problems sure does take a while doesn’t it? The funny thing is, why is it that we’re such a bad school, with bad policies, with professors that only got to their positions because of their religious affiliations, yet we just received a 10 year WASC accreditation this past summer? That hasn’t been addressed has it? Because if so then I must have missed it while reading the Op-Ed (Whoops I meant un biased reporting)

Now the issue here is no longer the article, because I am talking straight to the editor and I must admit your letter was highly unprofessional, but I'm a man of slang and vernacular as well, and I appreciate you informality, so I won't touch that. What I will address is that you don't seem talk about how after all the comments have been checked and how even my 3 favorite professors seem to challenge all your claims, you're only issue is...the cover? The cover? Really? After all the bashing, after all the arguments, you only have an issue with the cover? I'll tell you what, I personally have no issue with you making a twisted picture of my religion, and we do it all the time. It's American for someone to be able to draw or write what they want in the pursuit of knowledge right? Just last year wasn’t their controversy about drawing Muhammad on South Park? I personally believe that you have the right to draw what you want. You will get a lot of shit for it, and I personally don’t agree with the stereotype you chose, but as Evelyn Beatrice Hall once said (In summation to what Voltaire’s thoughts on freedom and liberty were) “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it” That my friend is what the first amendment is all about. But my question is not why you chose the picture, but why are you using it as a scapegoat? I feel as though more needs to be addressed here, such as why our professors are getting involved in the case, why others are getting involved in this and having debates with us, and why we have a school that represent 30 countries around the world ready to address and debate your claims. Does the OC have a general problem with our school that has been unaddressed for the past 10 years? My friend claiming ignorance toward a stereotype in the name of humor (because it is as you said a joke that needs no explanation) is one thing, but writing that full page just to throw us off of the point is another. I want to hear YOUR thoughts on the article, why you thought not to double check the sources, and drop some sort of bomb shell that we can all think "oh that's quite an understandable point, why didn't I think of that?" That's you're job. You're the editor. Now do some real letter writing and quite wasting our time.

AANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDD YOU “gustavoarellano” (Or whatever your real name is…but I assume it’s Gustavo Arellano) You seem to have a lot in stake about defending Ms. Woo as you’rer all over these past two articles, so I must ask…who in the blue hell are you? I assume you work for the article, but you sure do have a lot to say about this. Mostly 1 liners as I’ve noticed, but you’ve made some…points (not exactly good ones). So I must ask, what EXACTLY is your beef with my school my religion, and my friends and family?

Guest
Guest

SUA student's need to let this be and just be quiet. The peaceful don't yell or preach from their side of the picket fence; they sit quietly and continue on with their life, allowing the ignorant to learn through the peaceful persons actions that they were incorrect with the judgement they passed. SUA is better than this article, and better than their smart-ass comments.

Natalie de Leon
Natalie de Leon

Also, i was once upon a time called a racist for my slanders against other racial groups, do i believe i was wrong? Not really. Do i believe that there is a time and place for it with a certain audience? Yes. Will i make these jokes around those who are strongly offended? Most certainly not. The question that you should be asking yourself is would this offend people? The moment you have doubt, you should never do such a thing. I should never do such a thing. This should never be tolerated.

Natalie de Leon
Natalie de Leon

i just believe having satire for races and religious groups is old and overplayed. it is unnecessary in this world today. there is already enough discrimination and bullshit news coverage, you are just adding to the problem with society today.

Guest
Guest

i think you as the editor, the person who is solely responsible for anything that gets published in the OC weekly, owe the students, faculty, staff, and supporters of Soka University of Amerca a personal, in-person apology.

ocweeklysucks
ocweeklysucks

I ain't even trippin.OC Weekly is a horrible low standard magazine that is free because they get funded by girls in bikini advertisements for St. Patty's day.

Poor journalism, poor workers, poor editor, poor quality of magaizne, poor everything... OC Weekly is simply a JOKE.

it's just a pity and shame to what our world has come to, and how almost anyting can be published without credibility and proper english grammar.

I commend you OC Weekly for being so brave. Brave in the fact that you can publish such worthless crap that can put you out of a job in no time.

Guest
Guest

looks like anyone can become an editor this day and age.

i love how you fail to realize that the majority of the comments on woos article was NOT pertaining the illustration but moreso the article itself. and in response, all you state is, "[a]nd we got that in the story's online comments, even though (or, perhaps, because) staff writer Michelle Woo's piece was well-written and well-reported."

Really? That's all you have to say? where did she get her information from? I think everyone would like to know.

Guest
Guest

terrible article, terrible illustration, terrible a note from the editor.

Joe
Joe

Finally, court will just judge the truth, likes non-sense stories on a website of a Jewish that found guilty by court.

Nicole
Nicole

I think that this controversial cover story and cover image has probably gotten you guys at OC Weekly a lot of attention--just what you wanted, due to your lack of audience. However, you have also just proved Orange County to be the ignorant, white, attention-craving community that everyone knows it to be. Rather than educating your community, thank you for feeding them lies (yes, lies, as many of the statements Michelle Woo made were COMPLETELY false, as proved in letters from the SUA staff themselves) and making yourselves look like a bunch of ignorant fools. This is why SUA was built in a place like Orange County: to foster global citizens and educators in the midst of this generic, closed-minded, suburban shithole. :)

Guest
Guest

Ted- Really!? You claim that Miss Woo had a 'well-written and well-reported article' Really...hahahahaHaHaHa. I meant that laugh with sorrow and wonder. The Hare Krishna a Buddhist based religion & Mr Vhu (?) as a member when he Personally wrote in the papers' comments section and said categorically he was NOT an SGI member but was listed as such in the article?

You can google 'Hare Krishna Alter' and see that it is the Couple of Lakshmi his wife and the Blue skinned Krishna in the center, 2 not 1 divinity with offerings of flowers, food and incense. I have even been once to the Temple in 1988 or 1989. The founder of the sect who came to America in the 60's is Prabupad (i think that is the spelling).He gets the honored place across from the Alter for his statue, (life size) at the one Krishna center I have visited. Other schools of Buddhism have many differing forms of images. But SGI has a paper or wood object with No Images or paintings just words to focus the mind on. It can best be described as a 'chalkboard', with the people who appear in the portion of the Lotus Sutra called the Ceremony in the Air. They are arranged in lines in the order of Life Condition; from Buddhahood on down to Animality and Hell. All sitting next to the ideogram of the Lotus Sutra going down the center and Nichiren, the founders signiture representing all those who will appear in our age to practice including those now dead from the Trembler and Tsunami. And yes I know this much due to being an SGI member for nearly 26 years. So my supposed bias is now out and in the open.

I wonder, where did you go to school to get your degree in Journalism? Or are you the Owner Editor and have another degree in Business Management? If so, A word to the wise. Learn the terms Fact Checker. It is a position that is other than the reporter to verify the facts of the story reported. I wonder is one on staff? I only got the article from my Google Search term 'Soka Gakkai', anything in English I get. I live on the east coast right now, and love the non-corporate press. Because I have 2 great PBS stations and can get NHK as well as BBC on both. I learn so much more from the differing perspectives every day. Often straight up reporting good and bad stories, neglected by the money'd press.

I will end it here. Your praise for her article is faint at best. I am no one in the organization SGI-USA, just a general member with no leadership or money coming to me from the organization. I am a Grad Student nearly done with first M.A., on line. Peace.

Nek_bbew
Nek_bbew

You must be kidding. A religious ideal that supports and from what I have understood,..to be as far from right wing crazy and Muslim and Islamic crazy as you could get,...and they say it is offensive to Buddah?? ARE you kidding me? More cartoonish icons show up on shelves in stores and altars across the southlands. For an honest to goodness practicing Buddahist to even think the the"white washed Asian" let alone say it out loud proves thf fact that those that yell the loudest are the ones furthest from the truth.

Anyone who picks up the Weekly aught to have the mental aptitude to be able toExperience different idea and thoughts without getting their panties in a twist.

If you don't like art - ummm,..DUH! Do Not Look At It.

My gosh. What ever happened to people with enough of a brain to get political and journalistic humor?

Shame on you folks who over reacted--OVER REACTED TO BUDDAH TOO! How off base can you be?

That picture is closer to an insult on how I look than it is at insulting an entire Religious group. FYI - I live right next to SOKA and from my visits there for events and meeting peoPle,....the negative responses tO the art work have little or NOTHING to do with someone who strives for religious enlightenment through Buddah.

I think too many people just look for reasOns to get their underwear in a bunch,...just tell them to stop giving themselves a wedgie and move on.

Roy B
Roy B

I didn't understand or "get" the cover--not that I gave it more than a cursory glance. It didn't strike me as offensive, though, admittedly, I'm not Asian. The big, fat person doesn't say "Japanese" to me. I look at this image and see a fat white Buddha impersonator lady in a snappy frock, inexplicably cradling Socrates and his unexplained detractor, an angry lady from the PTA.

gabriel san roman
gabriel san roman

False stereotype? As Buddhism spread from India to China, it bore the natural characteristics of religious syncretism. "Budai" is what the cover art alludes to. When Buddhism reached Japan, Budai became Hotei.

Are depictions of Budai/Hotei unfaithful to the historical Buddha? Of course, but they are loyal to the religious syncretism.

Budai/Hotei is usually depicted as laughing. On the OCW cover, his eyes are closed in meditation as he's in the sitting position for such.

Guest
Guest

In all honesty, I would really just like for you guys to recognize that the fat man is not Buddha. Seriously, my issue with this cover is not that it is ethnically offensive, but that it is perpetuating an asian stereotype that many people hold, regardless of racial background. Siddartha Gautama, the founder of Buddhism, was skinny. One example of a depiction of him is even available on the Wikipedia page about him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

Gautama lived in Indian. He was Indian. The picture on your cover is of a fat eastern-Asian looking man. I'm not surprised that someone thought this was connected to Buddha, because many people do have that association. However, one of the comments I left on your original article was that this is false. The fat Chinese man is precisely that: a fat Chinese man. That is not a picture of Buddha. It is not Buddha-like, so please stop promoting this false stereotype. This is all I ask for.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

Here's the funny thing: after hundreds of comments, no one has actually pointed out a single legitimate error in the story. Not one. Instead, Soka supporters have responded with a whining campaign that makes Mater Dei supporters seem downright iron-skinned.

Egdougrou
Egdougrou

I hope so too. please tell us if he says anything :)

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

Gracias for proving the point of Michelle's story again--keep it up!

Eddie Doug
Eddie Doug

Don't get me wrong, I don't like drawing's that are racist and stereotypical, I'm just saying under the first amendment it's your right to be allowed to do so uncensored just like it's my right to question your reasoning on why you did so.

Eddie Doug
Eddie Doug

This is true. We shouldn't have any reason to respond to their comments which have only shown how unprofessional they are. However I think I will only speak for myself in saying that I personally just want to hear how the paper themselves want to treat this issue. Michelle Woo is not the problem for me because she can write whatever she want's and get bashed. I am only questioning how they (the people at the OC weekly) see this issue now that we have responded in such a way that incited a letter from the editor. That is all I want. If the OC weekly wishes to support Ms. Woo then by all means do so. If they choose to denounce her article (highly unlikely) then do so as well. However by choosing to avoid the matter at hand they will only continue causing a scene. We will be quiet. Trust me. We for sure won't be talking about this in a week. Heck we probably won't talk about this in 3 days. However I'm at this point where I'm just curious. (The only reason I am responding to your post in such a way, is because I posted mine just a bit after yours, thought about what you said, and decided to delete it...however there is no delete button, so I guess I'm just going to have to wait and see if any one says anything. Thank you for your concern about this issue by the way. I personally really appreciate it. Please have a fantastic day :] )

Joe
Joe

Pls don't create more misperception by your anger. SUA locates in a very nice place.

The point about cover is useless to be discussed. The major controversial issue is the reliability of story. Court will justify.

guest
guest

The funny thing is, yes, a few people commented on the artwork, but what' so wrong with those few people taking offense. The actual offense here in my opinion, is that the content of the article (not the cover) is based on unchecked sources (several of the parts that give the article juice, are misquoting of professors.) It is irresponsible for a journalist to use false evidence and not even consider that such acts have serious implications. This editor's letter is also misleading to make it seem as though the main focus of the responses was towards the cover art. It certainly was not. I saw that there was also digression from the article, but that was in large part incited by individuals who somehow have a beef with the SGI.

Guest
Guest

actually some people were offended because they felt like it was offensive to asians

Guest
Guest

Yes, by false stereotype I mean that the Budai is NOT the original Buddha, which many people seem to believe it is.

The Budai may be a representation of how the religion of Buddhism affected Chinese culture when it was introduced, but has no connection whatsoever to the Buddhist organization discussed in the mentioned article. So why did they choose to depict Budai and not the original Buddha?

Guest
Guest

Actually, someone pointed out the error about Hare Krishna. Not to bust your chops or anything! I'm just saying.

guest
guest

Here's the funny thing: 2 of the professors that were quoted in the original article quoted replied in the comments pointing out that the statements attributed to them are completely false, made up, and were never said in the first place. So that's one legitimate error, two legitimate errors....Having Phat Vu quoted to say that he would like the university to be purged of all non-SGI faculty is akin to a black man in the KKK--oh wait, is that offensive too? I only meant it as a joke :p

Guest
Guest

and gracias for nada, you keep saying there is a point to the article but you won't say what it is. JUST TELL ME PLEAASSSEEE I CANT STAND THE SUSPENSE!

Eddie Doug
Eddie Doug

*Sigh* I guess it really was pointless to argue. We've come to an impasse here and I must say that it's really gotten old. I hope that you have a fine day with your one liners and horrible articles. By the way I read through a couple and was not impressed. But still I don't see how anyone here has proven anything about Michelle's article. Maybe if you weren't so quick to write us off and respond we wouldn't be so angry. But I guess maybe that's why you're the "reporter" and I'm not. Anywho take care, and if the editor does decide to finally respond to this thing in a way that isn't flowery and flaky please be sure to shut me down if I respond to that. Take it easy and god speed.

Guest
Guest

maybe she has eyes...

Nicole
Nicole

Not angry, I think OC Weekly's ignorance is pretty funny.

Guest
Guest

lol what point?

Guest
Guest

To clarify though, the Buddhist organization SGI does not worship statues or depictions of the original Buddha either.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

Lack of an audience? Are you our publisher that's privy to such information, or just another Soka supporter who proves Michelle's article anew?

Mitchell
Mitchell

I worship Bodhi from point break.

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