[UPDATED]: Parishioners at St. Norbert Church in Orange Angry That Presbyterian Minister Allowed to Celebrate Mass--But What About John Urell?

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Urell the pedo-protector
UPDATED: 4: 25 P.M.: The St. Norbert priest who allowed the Presbyterian to concelebrate Mass, Agustin Escobar, has been placed on leave. The swiftness in which the Diocese of Orange acted to remove Escobar while letting pedo-priests officiate over Mass for years after an accusation isn't lost on longtime sex-abuse victim advocate Joelle Casteix.

"I am amazed at Brown's PR strategy when a 'disobedient' priest is put on leave: the media is notified, the spokesman makes a statement, and a local apologist gets a quote supporting the priest," she told the Weekly. "When a perp is removed, there is a small announcement in the parish bulletin - a bulletin that never makes it online. No press, no outreach, no quote supporting victims. I can't help but wonder how many local priests would suddenly be in the newspaper if Brown treated child molesters like he treats ecumenicals."

Heckuva job, Brownie!

ORIGINAL POST: FEB. 15, 11:17 A.M.: This story is too rich: The orthodox California Catholic Daily is reporting that parishioners at St. Norbert Catholic Church in Orange are angry that a Presbyterian minister was allowed to officiate over Mass and take and receive Communion this past Sunday. They have already written to Diocese of Orange Bishop Tod D. Brown asking that the presiding Catholic priest, Agustin Escobar, be censured, and Brownie's flunkies are already promising immediate action.

If only St. Norbert parishioners were so livid about their beloved former pastor, John Urell.

Urell, of course, is the worst pedo-priest protector in the history of the Orange diocese, the one link to all of the bishops that have lorded over the county's million-plus Catholics. Most good people would've given Urell the boot as details of his sordid past emerged in 2007--but instead of being good people, St. Norbert parishioners rallied around Urell, laughingly so. Urell still visits the parish from time to time, and why shouldn't he? Only at St. Norbert (home to more than a few Republican hacks, from Supervisor Bill Campbell to blogger Matt Cunningham, whose admiration of Urell was so blind he actually released the names of sex-abuse victims in a rush to defend the fool) could such a ghoul be loved and priorities be horribly skewed. Because at the end of the day, what's the bigger sin--having a Covenanter say some words about Jesus, or coddling a pedo-protector? For St. Norberters, the former--heckuva job, Brownie!

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Jeoei1812
Jeoei1812

Christianity a.k.a Catholicism started when Christ was born, not 300 AD. It's kind of the whole reason for the Church. The reason that it was inappropriate for a Presbyterian minister to concelebrate was that he partook in the Eucharist. Which is a sacrament in the Catholic Church, which the Presbyterian minister had not received. It has nothing to do with wanting to be united or not. It's just a sacred event that needs to be respected.

Richard Knox
Richard Knox

Urell must have some inside information that Brown doesnt want exposed. They have a deal.

Marie Ann Dougherty
Marie Ann Dougherty

I support Fr. Agustine's desire to be inclusive of all Christians. I'm assuming that those who cast these stones were free to do so without guilt. I think he was acting in a Christian manner by inviting another Christian into the church. Is the reason those in St. Norbert are up in arms because Fr. Agustine is Latino?

Dave Lieberman
Dave Lieberman

A Presbyterian was allowed to officiate over Mass? Quick, round up all the parishioners at that Mass and monitor them for signs of Protestantism. Just look for the people who suddenly feel the compulsion to nail theses to church doors.

Diane
Diane

Hmmm.... I suspect that the Presbyterian minister concelebrated Mass with Father Agustin because of Christian Unity Week. I don't have a problem with that, but I guess the parishioners of St. Norbert Church are not interested in Christian Unity. I actually think it was kind of nice of the Presbyterian minister to agree to concelebrate the Mass. He could have said, "No, you come over to MY church." I agree with you Gustavo, what a silly thing to get worked up over, especially in light of St Norbert's past with their former pastor, John Urell. P.S. My pastor once told me that a former pastor shouldn't hang around his last parish once he's been reassigned because that makes it difficult for the new pastor.

Danstemar
Danstemar

The original Church was Pentecostal, not catholic. They Prophesied, spoke in tongues, laid hands on the sick, who were healed, and we still do today! Catholicism didn't come along till after 300 A.D., and is a combination of Christianity and Paganism.

Maureen
Maureen

What happened in 300 A.D.?

TRADCARLOS
TRADCARLOS

Nice try Danstemar! So tell me, where was this pentecostal church from the year 300 to 1901? Why are there no records to prove your church's "existence" between the year 300 to the year 1901? I will tell you why because you only came onto the scene in the year 1901 before that your "church" never existed.

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