Some 1880s Mexican-Hating Courtesy of the Los Angeles Times

Rohrabacher: Takes pointers on race relations from the 1880s
One thing Know Nothings refuse to accept while railing about illegals is how, despite protestations to the contrary, their song is OLD. Even when stressing that LEGAL Mexicans are fine--it's just the ILLEGAL ones with whom they have a problem--they're just following the same ideological games set 150 ago, except back in those days, the distinction was between the supposed pure-blooded "Spanish" Mexican and the evil mestizo Mexican. And I do believe I've discovered the most hilarious hair-splitting of the genre in the microfilm of the Los Angeles Times.

On June 17, 1883, it published a letter by D.S. Covert from New Mexico, claiming to know the difference between those two types of Mexicans.

The Spanish Mexican "boasts of a descent from pure Castilian blood" and is "bright, active and intelligent," Covert claimed, as big a lie as Dana Rohrabacher claiming he ain't racist. But the "greaser" Mexican was "lazy, thriftless, ignorant, superstitious and unstable. . . . On the ranch or village home of the 'Greaser' Mexican, everything bears the stamp of negligence and shiftlessness. Their gaunt, sharp-nosed, long-legged and tan-colored hogs share with their owners in the comforts of the family residence."

And it goes on like this. What's remarkable about the letter is it nearly reads word-for-word like the points Orange County Register readers make when railing about SanTana--and yet they insist they're not racist. Didn't they ever read the Dillingham Commission report?


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Elvia
Elvia

I see the know-nothings followed you over from the OC Register. God Bless em'.

Steve
Steve

The people saying angry things to Gustavo don't get it. That's his schtick. Say imflamatory things, sit back, and watch people rant. He gets off on that. He figures, rightfully so, that he works for a POS of tabloid, so why bother trying to be a respectable journalist. He realizes what his role is, and he fills it. Plain and simple. Don't give him the satisfaction and react angrily. He doesn't try to support what he says because even he doesn't believe any of it. And as you all can see, he MO is to avoid directly answering legitimate questions.

So let me put it this way. It's like standing in line at the grocery store and you pick up a National Enquirer. Do you get pissed off at what someone writes in there? Of course not, because you know that 99% of it is pure bullshit. It is the same thing.

Maybe for the new year he can try to re-invent himself because his act is getting about as old as this story reference.

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HATECRIME88
HATECRIME88

Good God! American's don't want undocumented people coming into their country? You mean they actually want to keep track of everyone coming in their country?

Who do these despicable Americans think they are? If I want all 36 of my cousins to come over here they should, I don't have to offer any rationale or any good points of view from my side because I can just lable you a NO NOTHING RACIST WHITE PERSON!

and you actually went to college buddy? what liberal pansey dicksuck hippy bisexual commune/university gave you a degree? and how much dick did you have to suck to get it? thats all your journalism is. Splooge.

FAHQ
FAHQ

I think Gustavo is bitter because La Migra kicked his child molesting sexual offending Novio out of the USA and sent his ass back to Mexico after he got his 3rd DUI.

BACKSTABBINGFCK
BACKSTABBINGFCK

Seriously. You had to dig down to find a racist letter written by guy in the 1880s? Then you lump Orange County Register readers as racist. Remember back when you couldnt find anything to write about, so back when USC quarterback was doing a monarchs4marines christmas program and you had to blog about it?

You pick on high schoolers, and lump all Orange County Register Readers in the same category as some racist from the 1880s. Great Journalism!

Your pathetic. Matt Barkley would have kicked your ass when he was in high school. Your a punk. There are so many positive things going in in Orange County to be writing about, and time after time, it seems that all you ever write about is

'PINCHE NO NOTHING GRINGOS WERE RACIST IN THE PAST AND I HAVE THE DOCUMENTS TO PROVE IT!'

So whats your point anyways? Open up the borders and let anyone who wants to come in come in? Don't ask any questions?

'Oh, thats not a SUV full of cocaine and AK-47s? Come right in! Enjoy America!'

Hide your 145 lb petite frame of a spanish fruit topping behind your Laptop, we all know you couldn't say any of this with any of your joto attitude in public because you'd end up on a stretcher being carried out of the building by a paramedic.

Your a little faggot. Get aids from your local glory hole and die motherfucker.

Antonio Vega Ruiz Jose
Antonio Vega Ruiz Jose

F**king redneck. The dark skin mexicans have sign the independence, kick the ass of the french invaders, and even in Spain there are not all from castilla. They exist the Vascos, the Catalan, the Andaluz, and some times even they do not thery are 100 percent Spains. The first spanish conqueror were from Navarra Mainly, not from Castilla. And been lighter or darker does not mean pure blood f**king fascist nazi-sionist . I remember an white skin Argentinian complaints, when was filled his migration form an spanish was marked as caucasian, and he who was son of italians was marked as Latin

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

Good lordie. Your ability to conflate disparate concepts while passing flatus in some dark corner of the public library really knows no bounds.

concernedCITIZEN
concernedCITIZEN

Like everyone else, you want to turn this into a racial issue and ignore the laws of this country. I guess if you can paint your opponents as racist then their believe that the law should not be broken is somehow invalid. The fact is that many of us are not racist, although I'm sure that many out there are. Either way, we are mostly law abiding tax paying legal American's and do not believe in supporting felons regardless of race. Why do you think that is not a valid position to take.

messicans es muy stupido
messicans es muy stupido

wow, who knew they were so perceptive back then?... dont you ever wonder why the perception of every immigrant group that was denigrated in the past has evolved into a more positive view with the passage of time and yet the feelings towards the "greaser" mexicans remains unchanged? perhaps because these negative characteristics are part and parcel of being mexican? for our intellectual readers, what im saying is that being a lazy, drunken, slob is part of the average mexican dna..

Art Ghecko
Art Ghecko

I personall don't care whether the Latinos in question are "Castillian" or "Greaser" (were they using "Greaser" back in 1880?) If you come across the border, you should do so legally. If you sneak across, it's a crime, and it doesn't matter how many relatives you have here. If I'm a racist for wanting our immigration law to be respected, then I'm a racist.

Ronleh39
Ronleh39

Nothing that you dig up relates to the fact that illegal still means illegal. You just keep stateing that everyone is racist that want the illegals to go home. Through the years the United States have given these people opertunies to become legal, but most of them, wanted to hold on to their "Dear Mexico" and wave their country flag at our country's celebrations. Now all of a sudden they want to be legal citizens and reap the benifits of alone. If trying to save our country is racial, Then I'm Racial.

steve
steve

Gustavo, it is useless to try to discuss any topic with you involving immigration. However, can you please list any and all other illegal activity you support? I am interested to see what that list looks like.

Marty Cohn
Marty Cohn

...if you get married in Alabama and you get divorced in Arkansas, are you still brother and sister?

Steve
Steve

Spoken like a true liberal democrat who wants to increase government, taxes, and welfare. And at the same time, give away citizenship to anyone who can get across the border.

So, if being well educated, having a good job making good money, not having a litter of kids, and respecting not only the laws of my country of origin, but those of any other country I am in....then yes, I am a know-nothing.

But, hmmmm, but if we are know nothings, how did we take back the house.......? Oh, that's right. Because your head idiot couldn't lead his party.

Remember, don't forget to vote for Obama next time again.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

Steve: I just love seeing all y'all Know Nothings miss the point again and again and again—quite funny!

pinche wetbacks
pinche wetbacks

antonio- go back to cleaning toilets because writing is clearly not your strong suit. lol

Steve
Steve

Concerned, I've given up trying to have any kid of real discussion with Gustavo. The only logical explanation I can come up with is that he, like many others, believe that laws are great. Everyone should obey them.....Until they don't agree with it. In his case, he must believe that the immigration laws are unjust for whatever reason. It could be that the pathways are too restrictive, or there aren't enough of them. Whatever it is, it doesn't matter. He'll continue to rant and name call. That's just the way he is.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

No, you're "racial" because you can't but help to insert culture into an argument that really doesn't need it. If legals wave the Mexican flag, are you fine by that? If you're not, you just proved what a weak argument your ilk makes; if you are fine, I submit to your superior knowledge.

Steve
Steve

The point is I see you for what you are. And there isn't any thing funny about it. You are pathetic. It's your reality, not mine.

Have a nice day.

Bill T.
Bill T.

"messicans es muy stupido" your grasp of the language speaks for itself.

ATG
ATG

" racial boy below "???

Jesus dude, you are coming across like a petulant douche bag little fucking baby.

All I know is that there seems to be a vast difference in character and culture between my father-in-law, who is 100% hispanic of Spanish DNA and the scum buckets hanging outside the Home Depot.

Those guys, and I have experience running a shitty little dying construction company, were never interested in even applying for papers. I offered them legal help. Before the crash I was offering 50% contribution towardss healthcare and guess what?Not one of those losers wanted healthcare. When I asked why, their universal answer was " health care is already free for us. ".

Hey gus, want to find a real racist? Look in the mirror.

Keep up the race baiting schtick though, if as you claimed in an email to me, you get paid for answering our emails, I'm sure you are getting paid well.

Folks, Gustavo pounces on every email from his phone while sitting in some eatery, that is as long as he sees an opportunity to get in a race based name calling fuckfest.

Seriously, he is a journalist equal to a forum troll, saying shit just to outrage people and you know what they say about trolls; if you don't feed them they go away.

He lives for this racist shit.

Steve
Steve

Gustavo, I saw how you responded below, and it didn't answer my question. But, to answer your question, personally I don't care if someone embraces their culture or race and expresses it. But I do care when someone commits a felony, regardless of what it is. With that being said, if I am upset because someone enters the country illegally, does that make me a racist? I don't think so, but to you maybe it does.

So, is the issue of immigration "the ends justify the means" thing with you? I'm not trying to be confrontational, or anything like that. I'm only trying to understand where you are coming from, because I don't get it.

Steve
Steve

Gustavo, let's stay on point, shall we? I see right through you. I don't need to get upset, or resort to name calling like the others do. You are an entertainer. You do and say things to get a rise out of people. That's your thing, and you own it well. And that's fine. Just do us all a favor and drop the intellectual bit and stop masquerading as a journalist because your act has become too transparent.

Maybe you can start another column called "Things Gustavo Says to Piss You Off." Atleast then it would be genuine. And entertaining.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

No, you only see the parts that you hate and leave out those that don't square up with your perceptions—gotta stay true to your Know Nothing character, you know?

Bill T.
Bill T.

So your point is? We traded (alleged) credentials, as chalenged, and if true, we're both educated and have experience. How does that relate to my original allusion to the proverbial pot and kettle, which I still stand by? Changing the subject doesn't constitute valid argument, nor does citing anecdotal evidence of which as a (physician?) you should understand the value.

messicans es muy stupido
messicans es muy stupido

ok, i'll play along...BS and MD from ucla... spent residency at harbor ucla where i met those lovely people who get free treatment, yet complain because they have to wait.... oh,l did i mention the costs of treating diabetes and the rate of obesity in certain population groups whose main diet appears to be flour tortillas cooked in lard along with refried beans.. your turn, bill

Bill T.
Bill T.

I'll compare my BA in math and 28 years defining, desiging and implementing hard real-time avionics sytems (do you even know what that means?) delivered on-time, on-spec, on-budget with your education any day of the week. What's incoherent - the context speaks for itself, you're commenting on a commentator who apparently has english as a second language (who communicated his point just fine anyway) while demonstrating that your apparent grasp of spanish is even worse.

messicans es muy stupido
messicans es muy stupido

Bill t- your incoherent response speaks for itself as well... wanna compare college degrees?

Aureliano Nava
Aureliano Nava

That 100% Spanish DNA was heavily injected with pure Moorish DNA for, oh, about 600 years! Congratulations, your DNA is mostly African!

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

"100 Hispanic of Spanish DNA"? HAHAHAHA. Bullshit--as your story of charity.

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