Jared Loughner's Crazy Views Mirror Those of Glenn Beck and Dana Rohrabacher

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Jared Loughner's high-school-yearbook photo
The media has portrayed alleged Arizona rampage shooter Jared Loughner as holding such politically jumbled views--his top three grievances center on government mind control, returning to the Gold Standard and political correctness--that it is impossible to find any Left or Right direction in him.

But a military veteran who posts political humor from a liberal bent has discovered a televised conversation between conservatives espousing similar views. Who are today's mystery guests? None other than anti-P.C., return-to-gold pusher Glenn Beck and his congressional doppelgänger, Representative Dana Rohrabacher (R-Fairview Hospital).

Read Rack Jite's full post here. (And, for more on the shooting, check out our sister paper Phoenix New Times and its ongoing blog coverage.)

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Send in the clowns: Glenn Beck and Dana Rohrabacher.
Here's how Jite introduces a July 30, 2009, transcript from FOX News' Glenn Beck show:

After reading this transcript of the Glenn Beck show below, I want the media to tell me that Glenn Beck and Dana Rohrabacher are only expressing a jumble of political beliefs with no Left or Right direction to it. My God, man, this entire interview is about an extreme right-wing-conspiracy screed against government mind control by two of the craziest right-wing loons in the world.

Beck and Rohrabacher hear-heared each other on House Resolution 3247, a bill proposed by Representative Brian Baird (D-Washington) that would direct the Department of Energy (DoE) to research the social and behavioral factors that influence energy consumption and the adoption of new utility rates, as well as to apply that research to the development and use of energy technologies. Sounds fair enough. Hell, you'd think the DoE would be doing this already.

Well, after being approved in committee on a partisan vote (Dems for, Repubs against), the bill at last word remained stuck back in the House science committee for rewrites. That panel, of course, includes Rohrabacher as a member, and his chat with Beck reveals why it may never leave there--especially with the GOP having taken control of the lower house.

As the FOX transcript shows, Beck links the research to George Orwell's 1984, but instead of turning us all into history rewriters like Winston Smith, it will force us into hybrid cars.

BECK: They're going to study us and find ways to essentially trick us into driving crappy hybrids, and I bet that's just the beginning. As Time magazine summarized on April 2: "The president--President [Barack] Obama is still relying on behavioral science. But now, his administration is using it to try to transform the country"--they didn't say this like it was a bad thing, either --"because when you know what makes people tick, it's a lot easier to help them change."

Rohrabacher claims liberals will use the research to justify their desired, anti-American social engineering. Here, he picks up on Beck's contention that the energy research will produce "propaganda."

ROHRABACHER: Well, that is exactly what they intend, and actually, I think the word was used in the debate. They believe that people just aren't doing the right things because they're not making choices that these liberal leftists want them to make, and thus, there must be something wrong with them.

BECK: Sure.

ROHRABACHER: Let's psychoanalyze them.

BECK: They're insane.

Take it from two guys who know insane.

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Mj_lambrecht
Mj_lambrecht

this is all distraction.. glenn beck's views are watered down crap that no one with half a brain takes seriously no matter where you are on the political spectrum.. everyone whos studied the subject thoroughly knows he is rehashed lame disinformation. Real serious social engineering began A LONG time ago and Jared Loughner shows all the marks of dissociative MK or Monarch victim.. Not that we can just jump to that conclusion but he was a gay liberal jewish kid one year, then all of a sudden a ranting psycho the next. not to bring race or religion into it, just saying he was about as far from right-wing as possible at some point.. did everyone see his youtube channel? its all cryptic, his favorite books are all programming imagery such as wizard of oz and alice in wonderland.. he even has videos about programming children typical of the alleged multilayer hierarchies.. plus loughner never really said anything about mind control that didn't appear to just be fragmented recollections of his own memory.. plus what was with the BCE ADE years thing? Those aren't political "views" you damn partisan vultures! lol.. and watch now everyone will call me crazy for saying that.. the difference is COHERENCE people, Loughner was an incoherent mess not an ideologue or even really a "conspiracy theorist" because in order to have a theory you have to have at least valid logic (even if the premises might be at times questionable). This guy on the other couldn't keep a thought going for more than three sentences and all his youtube videos were just text of redundant attempts at logic and defining terms and things.. Idk I'm just gonna leave it at he was definately either schizophrenic or dissociative in some way which could lead anyone with severe ideological imperatives to violence especially if they are going into typical psychotic episodes of paranoid schizophrenia in which the individual often feels increasingly persecuted and threatened as they try to deal with the confusion of why their mind is basically falling apart..

Guest
Guest

The sustained pageant of profuse leftist clowns blaming the Tucson massacre on Sarah Palin is incongruous and calculatingly sordid; blaming it on Glenn Beck and Dana Rohrabacher demonstrates your aptitude as the reigning limbo champion Mr. Coker.

I’m not surprised that Straw-men such as you are using this appalling incident as proof that America needs harsher restrictions on men who refuse to wear panties.

I had hoped that you would get at least one fact straight.

Great writing as always; let’s pin the tail on Conservatives who are as far from blame as your vacation property on the moon.

We better act fast though, if we don't we will be wearing the tight-fitting panties and playing darts you expect from us in your cuckoo’s nest, because everyone knows that anyone who disagrees with you has to be irrational.

Even Stevie Wonder can see that in any subject you feature, anyone who doesn’t march in lockstep with you is the problem, and our dismissal is the only solution.

What more can be said about foolish liberal men who would go into cardiac arrest at the sound of a car muffler backfiring? You are docile progenies who believe you have influence. We can’t reason with you because you have no comprehension of reason.

Everyone who said they were friends of the person who committed this attack characterized his politics and described him as liberal. Not one of them called him a conservative. One friend said he never listened to talk radio or watched the news, or never read any books. Seems he would have been the perfect co-worker for you. Being completely uninformed is precisely a perfect fit – just refer to anything that Arellano attempts to accomplish with severe dyslexia.

According to Twitter postings by some of the shooters friends since high school, he was "left wing," "politically radical," and "quite liberal.”You will lie, cheat, deceive, misguide and smear, throwing a huge collective tantrum when those of us who dissent reject your thoughtless fantasies time and time again.

I’ve logged on in the past and thought there would be constructive man-to-man discussions. Reading your pap discouraged my actually having dialog with disillusioned uber-creep feigning to be journalists. Seems that only one side, the insane and despicable are the onlookers you pursue to acknowledge your masturbation peep show.

But trying to reach any accord with measly adolescents is ineffective. Expecting common ground, courtesy and sense is an illusion. To me it’s as impossible as reaching common ground with jihadists. What common ground can you reach with imposters who are so ass backwards in their stupefying logic, that they see the world in the polar reverse as anything any of us consider normal?

It has to be the tight panties…

John
John

A friend of Loughner's was on Morning America. They said said he was apolitical. His favorite movies were "Scanner Darkly", Zeitgeist and Loosechange. Zeitgeist says Jesus is a hoax. Let's see Glenn Beck is a Mormon and believes in Jesus Christ. So obviously Loughner and Beck are peas in a pod. NOT! Only a liberal trying to smear Beck would say that.

The local community college kicked Loughner out for being disruptive. The Pima country sherriff did nothing. Maybe because A friend of Loughner's was on Morning America. They said said he was apolitical. His favorite movies were "Scanner Darkly", Zeitgeist and Loosechange. Zeitgeist says Jesus is a hoax. Let's see Glenn Beck is a Mormon and believes in Jesus Christ. So obviously Loughner and Beck are peas in a pod. NOT! Only a liberal trying to smear Beck would say that.

The local community college kicked Loughner out for being disruptive. The Pima county sheriff did nothing . Loughner’s mom was on the Pima Country Board of Supervisors . Maybe Sherriff DUPNIK PLAYED favorites and did not arrest Loughner because of his mother? Sounds like the Democrat Sheriff is trying to save his political career.I have never given to a political candidate. Because of this blood libel I will give to Dupnik’s opponent and several other candidates in 2012. Thank you Coker for slamming upside the head with a figurative baseball bat with your lies.

Gonzalezpeter19
Gonzalezpeter19

If anything this article is grossly distorted like glenn beck? And dana rohrbacher? your so full of crap obviously your a Liberal Left idiot! Wan't your party the one who wanted to see ex President Bush Asassinated? And a book which was called the assassination of George Bush? How about Hillary Clinton in the 90's When she shrilled "That we are not going to stand it any more but we are going to rise be the new voice of dissent." Remember now? Or on NPR how it was said that Jessie Helms children were to die of disease? Remeber that now and how about Joe Manchin Using CROSSHAIRS AND A REAL FIREARM to shoot at the healthcare bill? Your a leftist loons and it is your party the democrat leftists loons who are hateful. Before comparing this sick individual Lougner to beck or any other descent person. Think again! Or what about the fort hood shooter? What did the Left say: "Oh lets not rush to judgement, lets first investigate and sort things out." Thats what the Lib Joe Leiberman said and the Left agreed for fear of Labeling . So go to hell!

John
John

Have you heard of Cass Sunsteen and his book Nudge? It is no different than what the National socialists did. We know where you stand now that you wrote your hit piece.

John Black58237496
John Black58237496

Barack Obama: "Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket." (January 2008)

Who would you most likelty find on a Citizen's Utility Board (CUB), a liberal or a conservative?

Who kept energy rates artificially low and put off research on energy efficiency?

We don't need the government for this. When you buy stuff for your domicile you consider your budget. Both upfront costs and ongoing costs. Only once have I turned down energy efficiency due to up front costs. I just couldn't afford it. When you buy a replacement furnace you don't tell the sales clerk to sell you the 50% efficient furnace instead of the 90% one. My point is that people will most often try to save money on energy so they can afford more beer or pot. It is just natural. That is unless you are a liberal democrat and keep the oval office at 75 or drive the largest SUVs (like GORE).

John
John

Glenn Beck reported on LED lighting. About a year ago he said that engineers/scientists that he talked to said the price would come done in about 5 years. If the government is so concerned about energy usage and the environment, why are PSAs for CFLs and not LEDs? Beck is on the correct side of this issue, while the government and the democrats are on the wrong side.So why is the government FORCING us into compact fluorescent (CFL)? They could have spent money on research to make LED manufacturing cheaper. Instead the government outlaws incadescents and touts compact fluorescents. Ask yourself why the government set standards to force out incadescents and promote CFLs? Maybe at General Electrics request and to help their bottom line? They make more money on CFL than on incadescents. So is this energy policy or corporate policy? GE closed down their incandescent light bulb factory. I don’t know about you Coker but I want to keep on using incadescents for a few more years until LEDS come down in price. I don’t want to deal with hazmat spills from broken CFLs. You seem oblivious to the fact that CFL will break and that people will have problems with mercury oils in their homes and communities with mercury in their city dumps.Liberals have touted Citizens Utility Boards to force by decree that energy be lower for “the people” . Now the liberals like Obama are happy and ecstatic when energy rates climb sharply to “encourage” conservation on the supposedly stupid “masses”. The stupid people are blogger like you Coker.Ehow.c o m/about_5452900_led-vs-fluorescent-lighting.html).greginthedesert.net/2007/12/co.../ezinearticles.com/?LED-Light-B...

John
John

Loughner Beck________ _____________Atheist ChristianFlag Burner Non Flag burnerMarijuana User Not a marijuana userDrugs as currency guy Does not like Fiat money when the money runs massive debtSkull shrine MormonFav. book Communist Manifesto Fav. Reading The U.S. Constitition

I have been listening to clips of democrats who claim conservatives killed Kennedy. Lee Harvey Oswald was one of yours. He went to the Soviet Woman, married a Russian ....If you say Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy then name names. This is more of the same. a leftist kills someone and and you smear the right. Both the representative and the conservative judge were pro 2nd Amendment. The representative was Jewish. Anti-Semitism is the domain of the left. As shown by the fired Helen Thomas and others on the left.

Thia paper is another Village Voice yellow journalistic rag.

To read it is to become ignorant.

Pro Obama supporters.

Look at it. Defense secretary Gate goes on a dog and pony after the government controlled Chinese press unveils an advanced stealth fighter. He goes over there an says "all is well."He leaves and they fly the thing. So it is not a mock up. they will build enough of them that our 187 will not be enough. Will they attack the U.S.? NO! They will peel us like an onion. First they will strip Japan Taiwan and South Korea from U.S. as allies. Then they will see what the world looks like after that. That alone will devastate our economy.

But you will be happy dumping on Beck. I'm thinking I'll be like a foreigner in 17th century Holland. Sucks to be you.

Pres Garfield Assassin Leftist (anarchist) Oswald LeftistSirhan Sirhan LeftistSqueaky Fromme LeftistUnabomber Leftist

messicans es muy stupido
messicans es muy stupido

awww.. poor coker.. he's the typical lunatic liberal who cant figure out why no one likes him or listens to him, especially since he has all the answers to life... last i heard, beck is the number #2 rated guy on fox news and runs rating circles around the childish lunatics on msnbc... seems to me, the american people have chosen which side to listen to

Tepuli
Tepuli

In addition to the massacre he just committed, it disturbing to see how the media rallies around this guy. The talking heads of radio, paper, and tv prod just about any sympathetic angle to rationalize his crazy act. NPR is already exploring and dropping stellar defense attorneys names who can represent him. Times have changed since Manson, and Ramirez.

Matthew_T_Coker
Matthew_T_Coker

Medical marijuana? The name's Cokehead, not Rockefeller.

TomDegan
TomDegan

One of the tragedies of history is the fact that Lee Oswald never had the chance to testify in his own defense. I'm not one of these people who believe that the man was some kind of patsy who was framed for killing President Kennedy. I have no doubt that he was the one (and the only one) who pulled the trigger of the Manila Carcana rifle that ended JFK's life. But I have a theory:

Oswald was an extreme left winger - the type of which no longer exists in this country: a committed Communist. I believe that had he been living in New York or Boston or Los Angeles - or even Atlanta - when the president rolled into town, he never would have attempted assassination. But he wasn't in any of those cities. He was living in Dallas, Texas. In November of 1963, Dallas was the right wing capital of the nation. Just a few weeks before the Kennedy shooting, UN Ambassador Adlai Stevenson had been physically attacked and spat on at an appearance in that city.

Lee Oswald's motive for killing John F. Kennedy was not fame and recognition. He vehemently denied having any part in the shooting.

"I DIDN'T KILL ANYBODY, NO SIR!"

That was his story and he was sticking to it! He didn't have to stick to it for very long, though. Forty-eight hours after he was arrested, a single bullet from Jack Ruby's gun forever silenced Lee Harvey Oswald. What could have been his motive? Here's my theory: He killed Kennedy because he really believed he could get away with it. The atmosphere in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963 was so politically toxic, Oswald must have assumed that the police and Secret Service would immediately focus on one or more that city's illustrious right wing crackpots.

The extremism of 1963 was pretty much isolated to a few southern cities. Forty-eight years later it's gone national. What happened in Arizona over the weekend is only the beginning. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but America's political discourse has been hijacked by half-wits and crazy people. Their spokespersons make their names by inflaming their clueless masses with the language of hate. That's their job. Then again, I'm not giving away any state secrets here, am I?

http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.c...

Tom Degan

Surfinwidana
Surfinwidana

Your smoking way too much of that medical marijuana Cokehead, please back off for the good of everyone. How can you bring Rohrabacher and Beck into this? What a disgraceful human being you are trying to use this for your own misguided gain. We the public demand real journalism! I used to love to read the OC Weekly, but with you and your other staff writers it has become the OC WEAKLINGS. Please raise the standards before the only people who advertise there either are pimping girls or boys, or trying to sell illegal drugs; seems my pleas were too late.

Matt Coker
Matt Coker

re: Did that make Gore equivalent to the Unabomber?

No. The Unabomber turned his house lights off.

MajorBDog
MajorBDog

Sounds about right.

@Elgato1844 Al Gore never advocated targeting specific people for a "solution" to climate change. Big difference.

CMAGNET101
CMAGNET101

NOW YOU'RE THE ONE WITH THE CONSPIRACY ISSUES

Elgato1844
Elgato1844

So what? This is exactly like when it was pointed out that environmental writings by Al Gore were indistinguishable from those of Ted "The Unabomber" Kaczynski. Did that make Gore equivalent to the Unabomber?

Ronnie
Ronnie

Are you just re-posting from Sarah Palin's facebook account?

Ronnie
Ronnie

Are you also aware that he Ayn Rand books on his shelf? Isn't she a favorite of you tea party wackos? He also had a copy of The Wizard of Oz....what could that possibly mean?

Ronnie
Ronnie

Yes, they have.....the idiotic lunatic fringe of the right....

Most people were against desegregation too....does being part of a majority make your viewpoint ethically sound?

And it's always hilarious to hear claims of something being "childish" by somebody immature enough to post under the name "messicans es muy stupido".

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

Hey Dana lover: tell us how it was okay that he employed a pedophile--we always crack up when you apologists say that!

Miguel Flores
Miguel Flores

Hey Gustavo,shouldn't you be at a Mecha or La Raza meeting?

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