[UPDATED:] Gregory Ryan Heintz, OC Homicide No. 53: Shot at Murdy Park

First off its MOSHER not masher. This is his girlfriend of two years. We got together after this all happened. Derek deserves life in prison and so does the stupid b**** that helped him and kicked my boyfriend in the face while WATCHING Derek STAB my boyfriend. These two piles deserve everything that is coming to them.

i would just like to start by saying roo roo  was my closet friend,and it breaks my heart that i will never hear him say    "fourrrrr five fourrrrrr five"again  for all of u who never had the honor of knowing roo roo,but still want to run ur mouth roo roo was no gang member he was the best home girl ive ever.had u say roo roo went looking 4 a fight.then u dont know roo roo he was the most loyal friend,devoted step dad,and a good husband.roo roo was a working class white man who lived with honor and pride in his heart.all he ever wanted out of life was the love of his family and the loyalty of us {his friends} i know my life will never b the same with him gone.you know the one person in life who can always put a smile on ur face and laughter in your heart no matter how shitty ur day? well that person was roo roo  and u have the nerve 2 acuse him of being in a gang trust and belive and take it from me a real gangster roo roo was not in a gang you have taken something verry special from us i see the hurt on his wifes face daily.ur nothing but a punk kid and the justice system will never punish u enough.the world will 4 ever b a lighter shade of gray.

Well for those of you still interestef Derek and Marissa will finally be in a courtroom on March 24th! Im nervous and am determined to see them. I want them to know who I really am without a gun pointed at me. I want them to fully understand what they have done. If you want to come its on 3/24 at the Santa Ana courthouse C55

Miss HB I hope to meet you too. Lauren is very special to me too and despite the age difference she has become one of my best friends. She too has an angel

To HB/NB Local and all the people who have helped me in ways you will never know I want to thank. Everything that you conveyed in your blog is true and I hope the advice about it getting easier is also true(Im going to trust that some of you have had or know somebody in a similiar situation),I have not yet really grieved over this as I am naturally a caretaker and am always worried about everyone else, I believe its a coping mechanism for myself because somewhere deep inside I think that Im going to wake up and he will be right there next to me. Im afraid when I except this he will be gone and so will my memories. I have been reckless and irresponsible and the worst part of it is I dont care. I need too. He would not want this. He just wanted me to be happy and that he did was make me happy. The last month or so before he was shot was a rocky one with the baby issues, and we were not so happy, at least I wasn't. For that I have deep regrets because I wonder if he knew just how much I loved him and how blessed I was to have him in my life. I never got the chance to tell him because of all the things going on around me that awful day and him dying so abruptly. I put on a smile everyday and tell people around me what they want to hear, when in reality I blame myself because he should not have even been there. The bullet was meant for me. He was a far better person then I have ever been and Im not sure I will ever be either. I just know that I misjudged the situation considering todays generation and there lack of emotions and constant violence around them due to video games, movies, etc. It haunts me everyday and Im just going through day to day activities like its a chore. I dont even have a Xmas tree yet. Not fair to my living child. So if you are reading this take the time to tell your loved ones just how much you love them and how you feel because in a flash you may never have the opportunity to tell them how you feel. There is not always tomorrow. Meery Xmas to all and to Roo, I love you....

this makes me sick!! I feel so horrible for Greg's wife, my fiance and I had just lost our baby a few months ago and are trying to start over and have a family...I couldn't even imagine this happening... and I think I had met that piece of shit Derek before... he deserves everything he is getting right now (besides having life) he doesn't deserve his life since he chose to take someone else's and who knows if he had intentions of killing more then one person that day. I hope Greg's family and friends will one day get justice from all this and be able to live there lifes without anymore pain.. I know they will always have pain from losing their family member. So sorry for your loss!!

this makes me sick!! I feel so horrible for Greg's wife, my fiance and I had just lost our baby a few months ago and are trying to start over and have a family...I couldn't even imagine this happening... and I think I had met that piece of shit Derek before... he deserves everything he is getting right now (besides having life) he doesn't deserve his life since he chose to take someone else's and who knows if he had intentions of killing more then one person that day. I hope Greg's family and friends will one day get justice from all this and be able to live there lifes without anymore pain.. I know they will always have pain from losing their family member. So sorry for your loss!!

I have just read through this entire thread and I must say that I am disgusted. Unless you are related to any of the persons involved in this horrific incident or involved yourself, you should keep your negative comments to yourself. No matter how angry, hurt or upset you are at the events that occurred/people involved, I urge you to bite your tongue as many others are mourning over a great loss. Be compassionate for others and put yourself in their shoes before lashing out unnecessarily with a bunch of "he said...she said." This does not accomplish a thing except make it more difficult for loved ones to grieve appropriately.

I would like to commend the family members for standing their ground and defending a man who no longer has the ability to defend himself. Even though, from an outsider looking in, I would want to tell them not to respond, that it is not necessary to comment. Though, had this been my brother/son/husband/father I would have done the same as they have to defend his honor for the person that I knew him to be.

I DO NOT KNOW ANY OF THE PERSONS INVOLVED, however I DO know that regardless of what type of person the victim was, regardless of his past legal troubles or previous gang affiliation (if any at all) that still does not give anyone the right to take his life away from him. It does not make a difference whether the victim was a junkie gang member from south central representing white/brown/black/ yellow/purple/orange or red power or if he comes from an upper class family in the hills of newport coast. It also makes no difference whatsoever whether or not he had a previous record. (I am not stating if Gregory did or didn't because I do not know. Its simply a statement to help you better understand what I am trying to get across) Every man and women on this earth has the RIGHT TO LIFE and I do believe that every person involved deserves a fair trial. I hate to comment on violence with hateful words (especially since I was not there when any of these events occurred so I have no way of knowing what really happened. All i know for certain is that a life was lost) but those two should be locked up for life and God willing, once their trials finally come to an end, then hopefully the victims family can begin to mourn the loss of a young man who was taken from them much much to soon and begin to find peace within themselves. This also goes for the families of Marissa and Derek as their families have each also suffered a great loss. They are now having to understand how their children ended up facing life behind bars which is no life at all, and much like Gregory they no longer have control of what their fate will be.

I would also like to comment that due to the fact that all involved in the awful incident are so young, that any and all men and women associated with anyone involved in this murder seek professional help with some type of treatment/therapy/counseling. Losing someone you love or even just someone you know can be extremely traumatic and learning how to deal with such a great loss is, unfortunately, part of life. We must learn how to deal with our emotions properly so parents can stop burying their children due to acts of violence, hatred, stupidity or a simple mistake, as we all know that this is not the way it was meant to be. We must STOP the hate. As you can see from this NO ONE WINS AND EVERYONE LOSES. Learn to love one another and use your words. Had that been done in this situation the outcome could have been very different and 3 lives might have been saved. Violence is NEVER the answer and if you EVER feel the need to harm yourself or someone else I urge you to talk to someone or even just to sleep on it. DO NOT act on impulse. Take a breather and look at the situation as a whole. What do you have to gain from harming another individual? The answer to that question is, and always will be, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Revenge does NOT work either. Leave it in the hands of the professionals to determine the outcome and have faith that justice will be served, even when you feel as though revenge is the only way to find peace. I promise you it is not. Have faith at a time where you feel there is none left, and be with the ones who need you most at this difficult time of your life as well as theirs. With support and love you can slowly begin your healing process and remember those who we have lost much to soon, or at the end of their journey late in life, (whichever it may be) for all of the reasons why we loved them in the first place. Their smile, the way they make you laugh, the way they love, the way they were ever so caring for their children, family and friends. This will be for you to determine what YOU loved and admired most about that person(s) and again will help you to find your own peace.

To the parents of the children who were at the park at the time of this very public murder, I urge you to TALK TO YOUR CHILDREN about what they saw if they are at an age of understanding the dreadful incidents that took place on this very sad and dark day. Always remember violence teaches violence. Set a positive example. They must understand that what happened is NOT ok regardless of the situation. Help them to better understand that violence is never the answer. Ask questions and teach love. It will make this word a better place even if its only one tiny person at a time. IT COULD SAVE A LIFE.

My deepest deepest condolences go out to the family and loved ones of the late Gregory Heintz.

To Gregory's mother and father: You could have never prepared yourselves for something so tragic. No parent ever plans on burying their own. Children are supposed to live long and prosperous lives and are absolutely supposed to outlive their parents . Stick together for you have never needed each other more, and remember to be patient with one another and loved ones. Everyone grieves in their own time, on their own terms.

To his brother: Stand tall, even though you are probably dealing with a great amount of anger. Remember your brother for the good and if possible be a voice to those who do not understand how something so simple can lead to a life lost. I can see by your words you are an intelligent, strong willed, and very caring young man who wanted nothing more than to be able to build a stronger bond with his brother. Take what you feel and use it to cope with your loss or to help others cope. This WILL be the most difficult time of your life but stand strong my friend. Have courage and faith, for your will get through this. It�s a one day at a time healing process that must be done when you are good and ready. Always cherish those memories that you do have and hold them as close to your heart as you possibly can. He WILL be looking after you and he IS in a better place. He is at peace.

Last but certainly not least to his beloved wife, and step child- who now must learn all to early what the meaning of death is. You must be the strongest of them all and try your best to keep your head up for the little angel that you have at home. On the days when you just want to cry, then that is exactly what you should do. To let all emotion out is extremely healing. Do not try to hold emotion in and do not, by any means, ever be afraid or ashamed to ask for help when you just don't have the will to get out of bed. Surround yourself and your child with love and support. It will be the only thing that will pull you to a place of peace when you are ready to go there. Lastly, teach your child the reasons why you loved Gregory oh so much, and teach him/her to love and never to hate. Maybe one day your child will be the one who saves someone else�s child�s life from hate/death/life in jail. You WILL get through this and you WILL be a stronger person because of it. As they say in the south �Keep on, keepin on.�

People we need to learn to take responsibility for our actions so this horrible violence stops. Be responsible adults by setting good examples and teaching the young how they ought to act towards one another. When you think of harming another person just remember that your harming someone who is loved by their friends and dearest family members just as you and I are. Not only are you taking the precious life away from that person but you are also taking life away from those who love YOU, because they now must deal with losing their loved one to a life behind bars or even death. Like I said before NO ONE WINS AND EVERYONE LOSES WHEN VIOLENCE IS INVOLVED. LOVE ONE ANOTHER AND FOR THE SAKE OF THOSE WHO WE HAVE ALREADY LOST STOP THE HATE.

RIP Gregory HeintzI did not know you, but you are obviously a very loved young man. May your soul rest in peace. May your family have the ability to mourn for their loss with respect, in privacy and in their own time. May you give them the courage and strength to move forward with their lives knowing you are watching over and will forever be in their hearts.

My thoughts and prayers are with you all. GOD BLESS

These are my own personal opinions and if I have offended anyone in any way i ask you to please accept my sincerest apology, as this was never my intent. I do not usually comment on a matter of this magnitude, but in this case felt the need. I never meant to write as much as I did, so again, please accept my apology if I appear to ramble a bit. I just cannot stand to see such negativity, when no one, but those involved, will ever really know exactly what went on that day at the house, at the park and in the minds of the young men and women involved. Thank you for reading and remember change doesn�t happen without change. Lets pull together through the most difficult of times and change the world together, for the better. Thank you for taking the time to read my post.

why isnt lauern schnieder mentioned more in all these reports? she was involved from the start?

to roo's girl...the only people that should have called the cops were cody or lauren when all this first started. i wonder why they didnt? probation violations? having drugs on them? and why didnt you call the cops? how long had you even known her to get involved in an already bizzare situation? shame on you for attacking dereks mother.. she had nothing to do anything. Im not getting into woulda shoulda couldas...the facts are you lost your husband in a terrible way...your family is suffering and for that i am so sorry. but dont for one second think that the families on the other end aren't suffering as well.

Marissa is a whore.

Im glad that people are acknowledging the facts that both Derek and Marissa are guilty and knew EXACTLY what they were doing and its unfortunate because that day one person died. Why? 2 people will spend the rest of there lives in jail, the girls and I will forever be changed. Not to mention the countless amount of children and there parents that witnessed this. We have all lost something. Why? To Dereks Mom I bet you wish now you would have done something when you got that phone call that he was out of control. But you didnt and now your baby is a cold blooded murderer who new exactly what he was doing. YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING. That makes YOU just as responsible. Think about that during the holidays. Happy Thanksgiving...

I know both marissa and derek. They knew exactly what they were doing. Their relationship was full of drugs lies and abuse. They had a " bonnie and clyde mentality, its digusting especially after derek has cheated and abused marissa. She knew what kind of person he was she chose to stay. They both deserve to be in jail for the rest of their lives.

Curious they both had court on the 19th & both pled not guilty. They are scheduled for 1/21/11 for there next hearing. They have seperated there cases so the tax payers and the families involved will only suffer more. Also they did not even go into a courtroom they were taken don to a holding cell and had video court. I was told by the DA's office that for the next 6-9mos it will be video court. This will drag on for years. They have nothing to lose by dragging it on with the "L" attatched to there charges. Everytime thay they go to court its going to re-open the wounds. As for you Rabbit I am glad that you are able to let him go and be confident that you will meet him feasting with the Gods, Im not ready yet and thats by my choice. I lost the love of my life, my BF, & the future him & I planned. Know that I do remember the good times and I cherish the memories. I also know that I was blessed for the time I got, but Im not ready to let him go, we still had things to do when his life was taken so violently and unnecessary. So I love you friend and thanks for ALWAYS being A GOOD FRIEND TO ROO, and thanks for being a good friend to me.. I love you Roo xxxx

Bilotti and adams were scheduled for court on the 19th, does anyone know what happened? Did they get convicted of the original sentencing?

I know this is hard for everyone but im gonna stop with this comment board> I said what I had to say. Greg was a beloved husband_stepfather and my brother. So lets just let him go. May the Gods hold him in the highest regard for he would have done just about anything for anyone, and I think its time that WE ALL just let him go. I know its hard but we have to remember the good times. Its a LOT different when it hits home but I will see you again when our paths meet. I love you brother....

Anonymous I appreciate your words and your right it is sad that one person died and 2 other people will probably never see the streets again.. Your also right about the police thing and the sad part is Dereks mom new what happened earlier in the day and yet she did nothing about it. Bet she wishes she did now. As a parent myself if my son was out of control like he was, I would do whatever it took to stop my kids. The only thing I can say is I will never be able to tell Roo I love him or hug him and its devastating. Both Derek and Marissa will still have that opportunity even behind bars and it sickens me, especially when Derek is still trying to call the ex girlfriend! We just want to move on from this nightmare, for the 3 people that were with Roo our lives are forever changed.I hope they get the death penalty and if they dont life in prison will do they deserve it

I am so so sorry for the losses that have taken place. I feel more for the families involved. I know one of the the persons involved and I never saw this in their future. My deepest regards go out to their family, a family who has always been there for me and my family. I hope that they can get through this and stay strong. It saddens me that the cops could not have been involved sooner to avoid any more confrontations than the one at the house. To everyone who feels the need to curse out and rage or try to guess what happened... just stop. Let the families mourn and move on rather than have to read the hate being posted. It's bad enough they had to live through it once.... God Bless

I HOPE IT DOES TO MANY, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO READ IT = )

WHEN WE START TO FORGET SOMEONE WE LOVE THAT'S WHEN IT MAKES IT A BAD THING...

WE WILL ALWAYS LOVE,REMEMBER, AND APPRECIATE THE THINGS AND PEOPLE WE HAVE. EVEN IF IT'S FOR A SMALL MINUTE EVERY DAY...<3<3<3

S.D.James that poem really touched my heart and believing it could be true bought some peace and comfort. Thank you for sharing it. I miss you Greg!!

They say that life is fleetingI know that this is trueI left this world so quicklyWith no goodbye to you.

I know how much you miss meYour tears fall ever lightThe pillow where you lay your headIs wet with them at night.

I know your heart is hurtingThe words we left, unsaidI love you�s, left unspokenAre spinning in your head.

The strength that I have carriedThat served to make you wholeRemains to make you strongerWithin your grieving soul.

For you see, while you were weepingOn the day I passed awayAt the gravesite near the flowersWhere my loved ones knelt to pray.

An angel came to see meShe took me by the handShe led me to a kingdomIn a very distant land.

As I look down from heavenAnd see you standing thereYour heart so ever burdenedWith more grief than it can bear.

I long to bring you comfortI long to give you peaceI long to hold you closelyCause all your tears to cease.

The joy I�ve found in heavenGoes far beyond compareThe love that�s so elusiveCan be found here everywhere.

The light is softly shiningThere�s no storm clouds here or rainThere�s no teardrops found in heavenThere�s no suffering, there�s no pain.

You needn�t be so troubledStay close to God and prayThat someday we�ll be togetherOne bright and glorious day.

So my love, you shouldn�t questionMy dear you need not cryI�ve gone to be with JesusI really didn�t die.

hey rachael FYI any one that covers her license plate and sticks a 7 inch knife up her cunt is a piece of fuking shit. I woildnt give 2 shits if you have known her since you were in diapers and played doll house together. And as far as the "other" piece of shit goes your right he doesnt deserve PC. He deserves to hit the mainline and get his head cut off. But unfortunately it doesnt work that way. Like I said in my last post take em both tie em to a post, blow them away save the taxpayers some money that we dont need to waste. ( im sure all of you on welfare will disagree with me) Let me say one more thing as his brother Greg I love you and I thin about you everyday, There is a hole in my heart that will never be filled and you will never be forgotton. I love you and I miss my brother

i would just like to first off say to all of Roosters freinds and family, i am so sorry for your loss. i know the pain of loosing someone,and its not something that ever goes away.secondly, i know Marissa, well i knew Marissa, before she was this person she chose to be today. The Marissa I knew was beautiful, inside and out, she was always laughing, singing and so filled with life.I can not believe the person she has chosen to be, or this life she has chosen to lead, all for what?? to be Dereks "Bonnie" while he plays "Clyde"? Her choices that day were stupid and immature and in love or not as a human you know the difference between right and wrong and what she did was very wrong. i know deep down inside she is still the same Marissa i remember,she is just lost right now. Marissa is not a cold blooded murderer, she did not pull the trigger, nor plan to go kill someone, that was indeed derek. so it pains me to read people talk about her so horribly. Now I am in no way trying to justify what she chose to do that day, but Marissa is not a "piece of shit," and i do not believe she deserves any more time than her sentance. Personally i believe Derek deserves life in prison(not PC), or he deserves death. not that either of those will ever take away the pain of loosing Rooster, or make any of what happened on Oct. 22 2010 okay, but at least the bastard will be able to think for a very long time in hell either way (prison, or death) about what he did not only to Marissa, but about the horror he created for Roosters family and freinds. May GREGORY HEINTZ REST IN PEACE.

R.I.P. Rooster you are loved and remembered very fondly!!!!

Thanks for your kind words and believe it or not I am truly sorry for her parents too. She will spend the rest of her life in prison for being young and impressionable. Derrik was probably her first love and she thought he was her everyrhing and had to prove her love to him. Its pretty obvious since she went with him on his mission to kill his ex. Thats not normal thinking. Plus the drugs didnt help out. That was not what I planned for that day. It still really hasnt totally set in, the worst part is when I sleep I dream and then I wake up and reality hits. Unfortunately we are all in our own prison from that day. My only advice for you is she is going to need you and her family so stand by her side. Marrisa is still in there and she still needs somebody. I appreciate your words but I hope that she spends the rest of her life in a cell thinking about that day just as I will. Nothing will bring my family back and I will never get to hear him tell me I love you or grow old together. You and her family still have that opportunity even if she is in a cell. So take advantage of it because I would give my life for one more chance to hear him tell me he loves me.

I learned about this incident last night...and am so heartbroken for everyone involved. I've known Marissa since she was 3 years old, a beautiful, loving, smiling child so innocent and pure...she comes from an amazing family who love her and it's unbelievable to think of the suffering her family is going through right now, and that this little girl, 19, still so immature, now paying such a heavy price. That's just the tip of the iceberg...to everyone involved, the friends and family of the man who died, I am so sorry for your loss. Love is supposed to make us do good things for each other. There is obviously alot of love and support in this room...and among Rooster's friends. How do we as humans go so wrong? How do we fall so far from doing good? I wish Marissa never met Derek, I wish Rooster never involved himself in this situation...I pray my own children never bond with others who have gone so far astray and get caught up in their broken world. My 19 years old son, who grew up alongside Marissa, once told me, when I criticized his choices "these are my friends, I can't leave my friends, I love them"...I told him "there are ALOT of people in the world that you can love. Pick them carefully. Name 3 people you would LIKE to have as friends who can add to the quality of your life, rather than take away from it. Your life is worth so much." I'd like to think that was good advice...but I know he would be the one to try to recover a cell phone and get himself shot. I have no judgement on anyone involved, I would just like to see this madness stop. I hope, for all of you reading who are struggling with anger, disappointment, and misplaced loyalty...pick your friends and family carefully...its your choice whether you live or die...and life can be beautiful if you let it. Let this be the last time you have to suffer with the loss of a loved one. To Rooster's girl especially...I pray your sorrow turns to joy as you heal and move on away from negativity and corruption. It sounds like you're well on your way...God's grace to all...

AGREES IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY WITH THE SCORPION!

I have lots to say still . So let me begin by stating :

1 People like Kelly Newton are in serious need of a workable brain. When bullets are flying its ussually best to look where they are flying before you run out in the open like a gazel with down syndrom .Hence , my advise is to shut your mouth unless your a 100% confident that what you are spilling from the lips on your neck is based on fact.

2. Trying to put focus on Gang affiliation and drugs as a way to depreciate the seriousness of the act done on Greg is a misuse of propoganda and disrespectful in a way that leaves me feeling even more disgusted at the type of world my daughter will be raised in .

3. There are so many people who were effected by this that were innocent thats its appalling to think that people are that bunkrupt of anything decent that they would condone a man to go up to an unarmed man and kill him that way in front of children.

call me old school but your a 2 bit winnie punk if you cant engage in a dudes face and use your fist . Praise Oden for giving me a sound mind, body and above all heart .

for those who want to bang to rocks together to form a spark and call it thinking clearly If I were you ID RE-EVALUTE YOUR CHARACTER

iM REDSCORPION AND i APPROVE THIS MESSAGE

This Goes out to those like Kelly Newton (whom i know)

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM AND THE REST OF US IS: TOMORROW WHEN THEY WAKE UP THEY WILL STILL BE STUPID!

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING NEGATIVE TO SAY STAY THE F@#K OFF THIS PAGE!

it seems to me that the Media journalism has lost it's primary reason for existence,"the practise of INVESTIGATION and REPORTING of events...".the lack of the above leads to hysteria, wonder and rebellion in people's minds, which lead to unwarranted, unfounded and unsupportable reactions.

i can understand your ardent reactions to this media report, they come from your heart.but the law looks at the FACTS.

all the personal attacks on each other here are pointless, unless you have facts to back you up.

JAY'STRACY-thank you. maybe i should become a reporter...lolMICHELLE - hate like that is only going to hurt YOU...ROOSTERS GIRL 1 -i commend you on keeping your head through all this hell you must be experiencing.remember, you KNOW what YOU know. the rest is useless...SD JAMES -keep up your POSITIVE support...OC GUY -your post took gallantry and guts and i applaud you. just remember to read between the lines...ROO'S GIRL 2 -you are so equitable with your responses.you should NOT be bombarded by these hateful replies. you sound like an intellegent LADY, who is going through something no one should have to realize.keep your chin up, try to ignore the unenlightened (it's hard, i know) and remember that this, too, will pass.it took me three years to rid myself of the hate i had when my husband died. (he informed me he had cancer one week before his surgery and he spent the next two weeks in intensive care and commited suicide by pulling out his life supports.) these feelings WILL pass and you'll receive another outlook on life that is positive.really...MISSJLEE -you should really take your biased opinion to michelle, in a face-to-face discussion, but, THINK before you speak.and, you should learn to use english correctly...

Let's fight on the internet, where everyone can be a winner.

Michelle hmmm calling Lauren a rat Bitch well little one she happens to be my friend and rat bitch she is NOT. you obviously are an uneducated little girl. Derek is a pure loser ive hated him since the day i met him he wass all pilled out and mad my man was kicking it with me instead of him. so he decided to follow us down pch until we pulled over punch the hood of my car then my bf aka his bf. derek def has a few screws lose in his head and deserves everything he gets hes been a bully since ive known him and a druggie and has started beef probably with everyone of his friends at some point.as for marissa i know her as well she was a good girl at one point until she met derek she fell head over hills for him and her life then spiroled downhill and she lost complete control because she was sooooo in love with derek she wanted to be sooo down for him down enough to spend her life in prison for him. now everday she can look down at her chest and see the name of the man she has tatted her her boob and remeber why she is were she is and who helped her get there shes an idiot derek wasnt down for her he needed her for a ride. wether or not greg was in a gang that DOES NOT MAKE IT OKAY HE IS NO LONGER IN THIS WORLD. i truly feel sorry for all the familys involved and may they get what they both deserve LIFE IN PRISON. and michelle please rott in hell u ignorant Bitch.

Thank you OC Guy that did take alot of courage and it means alot to my family and I with all these false accusations. I'm sorry for you and ther family too as these were young kids who will spend the rest of there life in hell by there own choice. But more then that Im tired of all the people and there stories. If you really dont know the story then keep your mouth shut and for all those people(kelly) who say they were Roo's good friends, shut it down because I dont know you and your looking for sympathy. Sympathise for the family not yourself and if you know us so well come see me....

If Derek really DID shoot a member of PEN1 he's screwed once he gets in prison.

weird how people come around at some point . Michelle should watch her mouth cause all dirt comes out in the wash bitch . You want to be a mudguppy talking shit out the side of your neck than I guess we can let you lead the lame parade down retard street. We know your all about it. Btw for OC Guy I agree with James that took courage and I for one appreciate the apology.Roo lost his life for nothin and Roos girl has lost more than anyone ever should have to .

WOW...THAT TOOK A LOT OF COURAGE!I GIVE YOU A LOT OF CREDIT.I WISH OTHERS WOULD SEE IT THAT SAME WAY!!!

So I had soe time to thnk about this and realized that I expressed my feelings to the wrong people. I was shocked, upset, and in disbelief of what my friends had done and was angry because I lost friends out of the whole deal, and my friends lost their lives, but losing their lives was their choice. Greg did not have a choice. I am sincerely sorry for bringing anything up to any of you because I was also upset about losing my friend(s). I cannot imagine what it is like to lose someone in that way and especially have to witness it. I am sorry to everyone, especially Greg's wife and brother. You guys don't deserve to have to out up with all of this critism and hurtful things said about your deceased loved one. Again, I am truely sorry.

THE WAY I SEE IT IS... "Roosters Girl" HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT! AND SHE HAS NEVER TOLD ME ANYTHING THAT WAS UNTRUE. I SAW THE LOSS IN HER EYES THE OTHER NIGHT... CAN ANYONE GIVE HER BACK WHAT WAS TAKEN AWAY? NO! BUT... I WOULD BE MORE AFRAID OF SOMEONE WHOS LIFE WAS TAKEN,BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE POWER THAN ANY OF US AND IM SURE ROO WILL GIVE BACK TO EVERYONE WHAT THEY DESERVE!

This is directed to Michelle and calling my friend a rat. That is a very bold statement and I hope you have proof to back that up! Unless of course you are a coward like the people who murdered my husband. Nobody knows the series of events that happened that day and it will come out in court as there was 76 witness's and thats not including the people involved. I suggest you keep your 2 cents out of it since you dont even have change for a penny and if you can prove it you must know who I am an how to get in touch with me so put up or shut up. My husband lost his life that day and my son a father. I'm tired of people who really dont know what they are talking about. Be about it michelle...