Orange Gang Cops, Tony Rack Go After Emigdio Vasquez

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The fight against Orange County's historic Chicano murals has opened up a new front against the man who virtually invented the genre: historic muralist Emigdio Vasquez.

On Feb. 25, Orange County District Attorney Tony Rackauckas filed another of his wonderful gang injunctions, this time against the Orange Varrio Cypress (OVC) gang based out of Orange's historic Cypress Street barrio (it hasn't been publicized yet, for some bizarre reason). In the more than 500 pages of evidence included to make the charges stick against dozens of folks (including an eight-year-old boy) is a strange diatribe against the work of Vasquez by Orange officer Joel Nigro.

Apparently, the cholos have claimed the mural above as part of their turf--an unfortunate development, for sure. But Nigro quickly goes off the deep end in an expert declaration for T-Rack. "Emigdio Vasquez has also painted several other murals [sic] reference the OVC gang and the gang lifestyle, including pieces such as, 'Vatos Locos,' 'Sunday Morning in OVC,' 'Vatos Locos de Barrio,' and 'Cypress Street Pachucos.'"

Only one problem: on his personal website that shows those murals in question, Vasquez writes, "These paintings show people and events in and around a Barrio in Orange, California where Emigdio spent his childhood." That childhood was during the 1940s; the neighborhood, the Cypress barrio. But according to Nigro, OVC wasn't established until the 1970s.

And then, Nigro turns into a McCarthyite.

"Vasquez is a muralist who grew up in the Cypress Street neighborhood and portrays rebellion against a perceived oppressive government through art," Nigro writes. He says Vasquez "sensationalizes" pachucos, and then goes on to criticize his use of Che Guevara in a mura:

"Ernesto 'Che' Guevara was a politician, Marxist, revolutionary, and guerilla leader. Guevara's radical ideoogy earned him a place in history and after his death, his image became a ubiquitous symbol of rebellion worldwide."

See what Nigro's trying to do? Emigdio Vasquez is a revolutionary whose trying to incite gang violence! That "perceived oppressive government" Vasquez captures in his murals, Officer Nigro, are images of the Chicano movement during the 1960s--you know, those fights against school segregetation, farmworker exploitation, and police brutality.

How much you wanna bet that the Orange police will try to whitewash this piece of O.C. Chicano history? Needless to say, many people are outraged at the attempt to slur Vasquez's work and at the injunction--sources say more than 100 people showed up to a meeting at the American Legion yesterday. Will talk to them soon...
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PEARL ST GANG
PEARL ST GANG

∵☆PSTX3 ☆∵ fuck orange verga cravers or also know as cukarachas... Fuck orange county cagones..fuck mcclay.... Fuck ia cocks and most of all fuck mocodena fucken mocas snitches

∵★★★CPLS X3 Controla★★★∵

Josephmciocatto
Josephmciocatto

I don't need to say much, history tells all and slim u pee'd when we met So slow down there g, OVC is and always will be the oldest and respected varrio in the O

PEARL ST GANG
PEARL ST GANG

Pearl street gang east side Orange county Los J Boys controla

Pearl St ~CPLS X3~
Pearl St ~CPLS X3~

Fuck mocas they ain't shit stupid snitches that's what they r good at got paperwork on those putitas they wanna claim something that they r not ...achu Ohh spensa ......we tree them out of hamlin that's why they don't kick it n e more we stomped them at vine that why they ain't around n e more and Fuck the rest cuz this is big bad PEARL ST GANG LOS J BOY EAST SIDE ORANGE COUNTY BIG BAD ONE N ONLY SLIMFOR THE HOMIES DOING TIME KEEP UR HEAD UP PERRITOS A BULLET AND MORE FUCK IT REAL TIME WE AIN'T PUSSYS WE DO OUR CRIME AND DO OUR TIME pocos pero locos take n e one saludos to the homies MALO,SILENT,CREATURE,WICKED,GIANT,BOXER,FELON,STRANGER,BRUJO,NECIO,POSTE,TOKER,SUSPECT,DARKS,VANDAL and all the other homies in the pinta doing tiempo and to the homies in the outs we ready for n e mother fucker trying to step in our territory's

GOOD man
GOOD man

OVC is the original name of that neighborhood.not the gang.now let me tell all you outsiders what it is really like here in Old towne. I have lived my whole life here so i think i got the right to speak on this.The Orange police department is very racist.Twice a year chapman students commit a sex offense crime with police present and nothing is done about it.its called the undie run. A younge person of mexican descent can not even walk down the street without the police harrasing them.it is a fact because it was done to me.Hey outsiders do us all a favor and dont comment on this issue that you know nothing about.

FUCK OVC
FUCK OVC

FUCK A VERGA CRAVER!! FUCK PELA ST!! MOTOWN STAY ON TOP!! TO THE HOMIES UP STATE BLACKY , YOUNGSTER, BUGSY!! STAY UP!! FUCK THIS LAME TALKIN SHIT!! FUCKEN PUSSY,YOU RUNNIN THAT MOUTH LIKE A STRAIGHT UP HOODRAT!! VMLX3 CONTROLA

PSTX3 GANG LOS J BOYS
PSTX3 GANG LOS J BOYS

U keep saying stay up kuz Thas the foos that wiped u vatas out of the spot Hahaha mocas achu putas snitches

ILL SAY IT TWICE FUCK MODENA
ILL SAY IT TWICE FUCK MODENA

no you fkn mekos dont! blacky's up in state cause that krew suk fucked him up and left him on the road... hahahahah that is fuckn sad suk runs u foos hahahahahahahahah you fos now are a bunch of PAISAS! HAHAHAHAHAHA you foos rank it from a krew.. SAD! AND ALL THE SURENOS UP IN STATE HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT!! A KREW THAT PUTS YOU MEKOS DOWN HAHAHAH PUTOS! FKN PAISAS! STAY DOWN TO THE PAISAS! FATAL,DREAMER,LEFTY,BONES,MINOR,SLIM,REIK,BIRDY,SOLO,RHINO, FUCK THE MEKOS PANTHER,BAT,GIZMO!! FKN PUTOS .:OVECE:. DONT RANK IT FROM A KREW

Pearl ST gang los j boys
Pearl ST gang los j boys

Fuck mocas they ain't shit but a big Fucken snitches that's what they r good at and I got the paper work on some of the vatos Fuck mocodena and ill tell u from now this is SLIM FROM PEARL ST GANG and for u vatos to get washed away by a krew that's embarrassing

OVECE 13 x3 GANG ST
OVECE 13 x3 GANG ST

OVECE 13 GANG CONTROLA... OVC iz all overthe OC BIG BAD .:ORANGE COUNTY:. .:OVECE 13:.

FUCK MODENA ovc
FUCK MODENA ovc

we all know one thing is that modena is a bunch of pussys like there o;der homies gizmo,panther,bat just a bunch of lame fucks like the paisa dreameer thety rank it from a party krew namead suk that is sad i have seen those stupid little kids from modena walk around like there bad but when they see a perlero they get on thier fones and start running birdie n solo are a bunch of putos birdie is a paisa solo got shot by pearl then got deported fatal the lefty and fatal are the biggest pussys i seen my homies ovc roll lefty outta his own pad face it mokos you ant shit

ANONYMOUS
ANONYMOUS

TO BE HONEST TO EVERYBODY VML "VARRIO MODENA LOCOS" IS THE OLDEST GANG IN ORANGE AND THEY CREATED FxTROOP NOW EVERYBODY FORGOT ABOUT THAT BUT EY IM HERE TO LET ALL U VATOS KNOW THAT MODENA IS THE OLDEST AND BIGGEST GANG IN ORANGE THAT EVERYBODY FROM THERE IS BUSTED THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT THEY ARE A SMALL GANG I GROWN UP IN EL MODENA AND THEY ARE ALWAYS ROLLING OUT VERGA CRAVERS AND ENEMIES LIKE PELA ST. AND OVC. THEY DONT GOT NADA ON MODENA IS THE ONE THAT CONTROLA...AND I WANNA SED WATS UP TO THE HOMIES FROM THE MOTOWN SHOUTZ OUTS TO THE HOMEY SHADOW,SOLO,BIRDY,MENACE,DREAMER,RYNO,BONES,FATAL,LEFTY,ROOKIE,BIG SILENT, AND SHOUT OUTZ TO THE HOMEYS UP-STATE AND TO ALL THE HOMEYS PUTTING IT DOWN FOR THE BIG BAD VML GANG THE ONE AND ONLY MOTOWN GANG

Smiley1770
Smiley1770

U SO RIGHT ON THAT HOMIE U SKOOL THEM THEY FOR GET WE A CITY NOT A STREET .... WE ALL FAM. WE R THE RICHOUS ONES ... NO ONE CAN STOP , TOUCH OR FADE  VMLS ... THEY TRY BUT NEVER SUCEED , JUST LIKE THE COOP N THE BUTSER ASS WANNA BE HOODS ...  JUST CUZ THEY TRYN TO TEAR US APART DNT MEAN NADA !  MODENA FOR LIFE I MISS THE O.G .... ROOKIE DOING GOOD FOX IS OK ... OSO TOO BABY BE HOME SOON IF U NEED INFO HIT  ME UP DOG ... MOX33 LOVE IN N OUT  SIDE TO SIDE NEAR OF FAR ... CANT FADE THE ORIGNALS! THEY WANNA B WAT  WE STARTD .. MOX3 LOVE ARATO

Anonymous
Anonymous

orange barrio street GANG LOS CREEPERS! OVECE13 OLDxTOWNxORANGExGANGx

FORMER CYPRESS STREETER
FORMER CYPRESS STREETER

HERES SOMETHINGS I DO HAVE TO SAY AS ONCE ALSO BEING A PART OF THE OVC GANG....THERES DIFFRENT VIEWS OF EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE...OF COURSE DONT GET ME WRONG THE INJUNCTION IS A GREAT IDEA. ITS GOING TO BE BRING DOWN CRIME HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY! THANKS A MAJOR GOOD THING THAT WE CAN BE HAPPY FOR. BUT LISTEN ITS NOT THE STREETS WHERE EVERYTHING TAKES PLACE. ITS IN THE SCHOOLS. THATS WHERE IT IS ALL AT. SURE THEY REPRESENT A STREET AND YES THEY COMMIT MAJOR FELONS AN CRIMES BUT ACTIVE WISE IT ALL IN SCHOOL. ORANGE HIGH SCHOOL IS A MAJOR RESPONSIBILTY FOR WHATS GOING ON. NOT ONLY SCHOOL BUT PARENTS. ITS NOT ALWAYS THAT YOUR BORN LUCKY OR WITH A GOLDEN SPOON UP YOUR BUTT. SOME PEOPLE ARE BORN INTO A SOCITEY THAT DEMANDS FOR YOU TO GROW UP AS A GANG BANGER. BUT AS A KID AND A CHILD ITS HARD TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS FOR YOUR SELF WITHOUT PARENTS BEING AROUND BECAUSE THERE WORKING A MIDNITE SHIFT AN SLEEP DURING THE DAY. SURE WILL POWER IS THAT GIVES US THE STRENGTH TO SAY NO TO THINGS BUT SOMETIMES YOUR JUST A PART OF LIFE AND THERES NOTTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. AND FOR AS THE MURAL....ITS NEAT TO LOOK AT BUT HONESTLY PEOPLE THE PROBLEM WITH THE LITTLE KID CHOLOS NOW ADAYS IS THAT THEY DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THERE BANGING FOR! THEY DONT EVEN KNOW THERE HISTORY ABOUT THERE BARRIO. THEY JUST TO IT TO FIT IN OR JUST TO DO STUPID THINGS. THERES MANY REASONS. BUT THAT MURAL SURE IT WAS PAINTED BY A FORMER OVC GANG MEMBER BUT IF YOUR KID GAVE YOU A PAINTING WHEN HE/SHE IS IN 2ND GRADE AND YOU WERE TO ASK THEM TO DO IT AGAIN 30 YEARS LATER DONT YOU THINK THAT IT PICTURE WOULD BE DIFFRENT??? PEOPLE CHANGE AN THOSE WILLING TO DO SO DESERVE TO HAVE THAT SHOT! AND TO YOU GUSTAVO ITS GOOD TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO LOOK AT BESIDES BROKEN HOMES AN BULLET HOLES!

Tulip
Tulip

Pickens, seriously Daffodil is like the worst reporter at the weekly. And that is saying something. Are you sure you want to take her word for what played out? I wouldn't.

Pickens
Pickens

If you think the DA and OPD are so great...check out this article: http://blogs.ocweekly.com/nave... The DA and OPD thought that they were going to walk all over these people. Who is looking pretty stupid right now? Not the so called gang members...Thanks OPD and DA for wasting the tax payers money...now your talking about sueing the parents...getting desperate..next time let the city of Orange pay the court and attorney's fee's...not the rest of the state.

thompson
thompson

TO ALL YOU DUMB RACITS WHITE FUCKS. YOU GUYS DONT KNOW ANYTHING. THE MURAL IS A WELL DONE MASTER PEICE.

Shame on Ducaca & friends.....
Shame on Ducaca & friends.....

US Citizen:

-Now, where should I begin w/you! Boy, you just light up when the mere sound of of OPD & Nigro are mentioned. Mira, I got a big wake up call-slap in the face for you, pocho! Once OPD is done ridding of all the vatos locos in Orange-guess who their next target/operation will be? Tu menso! You will be heading south towards "Santana" when they hit you with some bogus-fictitious injunction based on the pigmentation of your skin. So, I would refrain from bad mouthing your neighboring city if I were you!! :) You have high hopes that Chapman will indeed buy out all the area in mention! Forget all the other law-abiding citizens that own & live in the same area, right! I much doubt you carry the natural talent & ability to be accepted into an institution as Chapman-so what the heck you so concerned about it for! Otra cosita before I bounce.....Professor of English-if the spelling of OVC bothers you so much why don't you give the fellas a lesson in spelling yourself!!! What do you say? I can arrange the tutorial for you! STOP FOCUSING ON PETTY BS & REMEMBER THE REAL ISSUE AT HAND HERE!

Shame on Rucaca & friends
Shame on Rucaca & friends

tulip:

-You truly are a classic idiot or maybe just your typical Orange County fascist pig! You pick!

-You go on lecturing Gustavo about "assumptions!" Tulip quotes: "Including one depicting a street robbery with a victim being held by the throat! "Sunday Morning in OVC," in case you missed that one."

-We are not dealing with "abstract" art here, tulip! Take another look at the painting! Better yet let the previous owner of the original painting describe it for you (who might I add purchased the piece about 20 years ago in a well established art gallery in Tustin-he has since sold it back to the Vasquez personal collection): "It consisted of three young men, friends, in a parking lot exchanging pleasantries. Or just chit-chatting�who knows? But Vasquez painted life into the scene by making it so believable through the way he played light against the many textures surrounding them and how the characters simply belong."

-This man saw the true beauty behind the canvas! It's too bad folks like ol' "tulip" are too wrapped up in their conservative crusades to appreciate the unique diversity in cultures.

-I'm just a young "barrio" girl who is willingly open to admit that I will never try to interpret Euro-Anglo art! Appreciate it-maybe! "You don't know my friend until you have walked along the same path." With that said.....do not negatively critique the work of a "well respected man" without knowing the "real" story behind his influences!

Gustavo Arellano
Gustavo Arellano

US Citizen: How about the the people who are helping out those non-cholos named in the injunction? Glad to know you don't care about Orange County history!

US Citizen
US Citizen

First off if you are going to teach us about a barrio you should first teach OVC that it is spelled barrio and not Varrio. To Gustavo, I would like to know where you obtained your lies for this article. There is no 8-year-old in this wonderful injunction. Mentiroso. Now I wish Chapman University would buy up all of the land to extend their fine university. Finally I would like to say that I live in the City of Orange and I am thankful for OPD, especially Det. Nigro, for the gang injunction. If it wasn't for their hard work our city might look like SanTana (Mexico)

Shame on Rucaca & friends.....
Shame on Rucaca & friends.....

Note to Rucaca & KKK-based OPD!: *Latinos/Chicanos/Mexicans (whatever it is your calling us these days!) hold a major role in Orange County history! (They managed to keep the BLACKS away-but, never us little brown people!). Anywho........chingado......."PRESERVE THE MURALS!" "LEAVE THE MURALS ALONE!" They are indeed part of Orange County history! (Whether you like it or not!) I get the whole "gang injunction" bit (was it really necessary?) OPD has done a fine & dandy job of locking up most of the crucial figures involved in the gang! Bueno, good luck to you all w/that. Back to defending the works of such an inspirational figure in the latin community!!!!!! My final words to Rucaca & friends.....BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY THAT MR. VASQUEZ'S "CULTURALLY ROOTED" MASTERPIECES OF MURALS ARE THE LAST THING THE BAD BOYS ON CYPRESS ST. ARE THINKING OF WHEN THEY ARE....LET'S SEE....UP TO NO GOOD, GETTING HIGH, OR MAYBE JUST KICKIN' IT. *Let me educate or refresh your bias minds for a moment! Barrios is a term still used in Mexico-translation=simply a neighborhood (Hold On-I did not say a "gang neighborhoood" nor did I say "gang territory"). What....Whites don't label their "barrios" to distinguish it from others hence "Floral Park" in Santa Ana. Mr. Vasquez has reflected on & portrayed his years in the "barrio" or "his community" through his murals. That's it! It's that simple! His breath-taking work ranges from topics to eras....whatever was going down in that period of time! We must stand behind the "PRESERVATION OF THESE MURALS!" The City of Orange along with OPD & Rucaca owe Mr. Vasquez a public apology!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tulip
tulip

Okay, here's my last word on this.

APG, seriously get an education and get away from all of this crap. You are all caught up in conspiracy theories and racism and you've missed out on the lifeline that education can throw you. You can live your life as a victim of all the breaks you didn't get or you can choose to make your life about something else. And no, I'm not judging you based on race, I'm making an observation about your writing skills. By the way, it is not the role of government to raise children, that is what their parents are supposed to do, and I don't care what nationality they identify with.

Gustavo, I'm sure you've heard the old saying about assumptions. If it makes you feel better to make assumptions about me, go for it. As for Vasquez, you asked how it glorifies OVC. Let's see, he has images of Che Guevara and Caesar Chavez next to a car with OVC on it (at least I think that is where it is, I know I saw "OVC" in the mural and admit it, you did too). I'd say he's equating OVC with these powerful revolutionary leaders. Sounds pretty pumped up for a criminal street gang. Now can you see why they love it? That's right the guy spray painting his moniker on a wall is JUST like Ceasar Chavez and those brave farmworkers. Also, if he isn't glorifying the gang, why does he put "OVC" in several of the paintings (seriously, it's not just one or two)? Including one depicting a street robbery with a victim being held by the throat! "Sunday Morning in OVC," in case you missed that one. By the way, his childhood may have been in the '40s, but the paintings seem to have been done sometime around the 70's or 80's.

I know none of this will convince you since you've made up your mind, but maybe it is a bit of food for thought.

a.p.g
a.p.g

to;tulip, you say that the gang has the 8 and 10 yr olds to carry the guns,how do you know?are you in a gang ?or you just believing what people write and tell you?cause i can get into this whole thing seriuosly,for one the goverment makes everyone believe what they want you to believe and we believe it!!we can argue the point,but that wouldnt change there minds:)right?anthow thats whats going on here about the murals,if you really took a look at his murals,it doesnt show gang members holding gun,and throwing up gang signs,does it?no!it doesnt,what!!cause theres mexicans in it?now tell me if there were white would they make in issue?no!!they wouldnt,i can tell you the real truth for this injunction,you see the college in the area is trying to buy off all the hispanic old historical houses,they refuse to sell,so they paid the cops to find a way to get the hispanics out,fact!theres alot to this story if you really looked into it!now tell me why dont the city have programs to help the kids,why dont they have recreations things to keep kids busy???i can tell you why!cause they dont want to give hispanics nothing1they think there all wabs and should go back to mexico!now thats wrong dont you think?well if youd like to learn more talk to me:)

Gustavo Arellano
Gustavo Arellano

Did you read my post? WHere does Vasquez glorify OVC? I'm sure that'll come as news to him.

tulip
tulip

No I think I got what Vasques is about as far as OVC is concerned. He's a fan. I mean his work shows a respect for the gang and the quantity of OVC paintings that I saw, thanks to your link, shows a fascination with them. Obviously he has talent as an artist and his other workshows he's not a one trick pony but a serious and talented artist. Again, the issue is not what the artist intended but what the mural has come to represent for the gang.

And again, you need to take your blinders off and see that larger context. If you look in the penal code the gang sections are termed 'Street Terrorism," so my analogy is not as out of left field as you think. Sometimes you have to do a cost benefit analysis when you look at something that is a public safety issue. Seriously, if you want to be a journalist, you need to not jump down the throat of everyone who disagrees with you. Sometimes if you listen, you might learn something, or at least gain an understanding of the other side to better your argument.

Gustavo Arellano
Gustavo Arellano

Tulip: I don't know who you really are or where you live, but I'll just assume you're claiming you live in Orange. If so, I suggest you research the history of the Vasquez mural you just ridiculously compared to Al Qaeda propaganda. You'll find out how shockingly mainstream and accepted the mural is�and I suggest you reread this post slooooowly and try to figure out what exactly Vasquez celebrates.

tulip
tulip

You know, naming an 8 year old sounds bad, but put it in context. It's the 8 year old, the ten year old, the 12 year old, who is told to carry the gun and stand up for the gang. They don't have the maturity to stand up for what's right, they just want to be important to those that they idolize. The veteranos know that they are juvis and won't get real prison time, so they use them. Maybe when that 8 year old's parent got served he/she or they woke up the dangerous life their child has chosen.

By the way, chill out Gustavo, not everyone agrees with your assessment of this art. If it was an artist who painted murals to glorify other terrorists, like Al Quaida, would you want it painted on a public wall for them to take pictures in front of? Or as a flashpoint of violence if someone dared to disrespect it? And thanks for the link, I now see exactly what Det. Nigro was talking about. The artist totally glorifies OVC and their perception of their place in the varrio. Try to see beyond your bubble.

A.P.G
A.P.G

LET ME JUST CLARIFY THINGS FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST DONT KNOW!!!!FOR ONE. LET ME JUST TELL YOU THAT ORANGE PD IS PART OF THE KKK,AND SO IS THE WHOLE COURT SYSTEM,BUT ANYHOW BACK TOO THE MAIN TOPIC,THIS WHOLE GANG INJUNCTION DOES NOT ONLY EFFECT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SERVED,IT EFFECTS THE WHOLE COMMUNITY,AND IT GIVES THE OPD THE RIGHT TO ABUSE THIS INJUNCTION AS IN RACIAL PROFILING ANY CHICANO WALKING THE STREETS,THINK YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN ARE SAFE YOU'RE NOT!!!CHECK OUT THE 8YR OLD CHILD THAT GOT SERVED WITH THE INJUNCTION,COME ON!!!I THOUGHT THIS INJUNCTION WAS TO SAVE THE KIDS,WHAT A JOKE ORANGE P.D

Gustavo Arellano
Gustavo Arellano

There's not a difference, but let's use another example: cholos in SanTana claimed El Salvador Park for ages. Did the police tear down the park? Nope�they went after the cholos, and now it's relatively safe despite cholos still claiming it as their turf. Nuke the cholos, but don't try to smear Vasquez and his art as somehow creating violence.

jdd
jdd

Gustavo, Are you comparing apples and oranges here? We're talking about a local mural, not an internationally recognized NFL team. There's a big difference and if you can't see it then you are not as intelligent as I thought you were.

Gustavo Arellano
Gustavo Arellano

Jdd: Again, you're missing the point of this post. You don't have to lecture me on cholos�I know the devastation they wreck. Gangs have also adopted the Dallas Cowboys as their symbol�so do we heap hate on Jerry Jones or the idiots who appropriate it? Your ahistorical approach to the Vasquez mural is chilling.

jdd
jdd

Gustavo, Get off the Vasquez johnson. It doesn't matter how it was intended. The criminals have adopted it and it HAS become a symbol of OVC. The respectable, hard working Latino families want the gangs to go and however that happens does not matter to me or most of the people I know. We are tired of having drugs sold in our neighborhoods. We are tired of having our homes and cars broken into. We are tired of fearing that because they have some minor bitch with some other gang that we or our kids will be caught in the crossfire. Maybe if you took the time to talk to some of us you would find out that we have had it with the gang culture and we want them and their parents to go so we can live in peace and raise our kids in a decent environment.

tulip
tulip

There is a difference between Chicano culture and GANG culture. "Chicanos," as you call them, should welcome an injunction that seeks to protect honest hard working families that reside and work in the area. It's time to take back the streets for the community, not a group of selfish terrorists. Stop protecting these criminals, because if you saw them in the street, they would NOT protect you.

As for the mural, intended or not, it has become a symbol of OVC and they revel in it.

Paul Lucas
Paul Lucas

As the son of a mom who grew up in old town orange, Scahefer and ALmond) and where I grew up in modena, i wanna ask one question; What The Fuck!!

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