FishWithoutBicycle 5pts I agree with Shannon Tiare's comments. Vegans who demonize carnivores/omnivores are short-sighted and grossly oversimplifying the complex issue of ethical food/resource consumption. And, yes, I do take particular offense to Anthony Kiedis's comment...it's the epitome of arrogant and preachy...with an extra pot shot at the overweight thrown in for good measure. Classy! Trying to convert someone to your cause by "shaming" them is archaic...and ineffective!